Question on Transactions in Property….

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    Anonymous
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    I was practicing on CPA Review For Free and encountered this question which I got wrong and I’m frustrated about it because I don’t know why I got it wrong….

    Candy Valentine owns securities with a tax basis of $5,000. She gives them to Bill Wallace when they are worth $6,100. He holds them but they begin to fall in value. He finally sells them for $5,200. What is the impact on taxable income that he must report on this sale?

    A Zero

    B $900 loss

    C $200 gain

    D $1,100 gain

    Correct Answer- C

    When property that has been received as a gift is sold above the previous owner’s tax basis, the difference is the gain on the sale. Wallace sold the property for $5,200 which is $200 more than the basis to Valentine of $5,000. That $200 difference is the gain that Wallace must report.

    Why is it not A? It is my understanding that when property is received as a gift and then sold at a price between FMV and Basis, there is no recognized gain or loss.

    What is going on?? I have done a TON of questions on this with Gleim and never encountered such a problem. What quirk am I missing in this question?

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  • #307531
    Anonymous
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    Wait, let me guess. It’s 0 recognized gain/loss when the selling price is below basis, right? In this question, the Selling Price is above basis.

    Yeah, I give up!!! This is ridiculous. I’m sorry, I tried feeling confident and all, but it’s getting to the point where this is literally impossible. Another 64 coming my way!! Ugh!!!

    #307532

    The answer is B as Fair-market value is Higher, Transaction rule apply if Fair-market value is lower.

    #307533
    Anonymous
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    Wait, it can't be. CPA Review For Free said it's C.

    #307534

    sorry i meant C not B

    #307535
    Anonymous
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    I have done over 1,000 questions on Gleim and never encountered this nitpicky little quirk. This is very frustrating. Maybe I shouldn't have wasted money on Gleim and just used CPA Review For Free instead. It seems to introduce a lot of quirks that I've never encountered before. And I'm sure that's a good thing since I expect the actual exam to be the same way.

    #307536

    Sorry if i confused you.

    For Gift

    If FMV is High than cost is used than there is no SP Rule

    But IF FMV is LOW

    Than

    ther is 3 rule

    1)Is sp is greater than FMV and above cost than Cost

    2) Is SP is lower than FMV than FMV that will be loss

    3) If SP is between Cost and FMV than SP and there will be no gain or loss

    I hope this help.

    #307537
    Yvonne570
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    When you receive a gift, you have to use the donor's basis when the FMV is greater than the donor's basis. This case, this was $5000 less the sales price $5200 – $200 gain.

    https://www.irs.gov/publications/p551/ar02.html#en_US_2010_publink1000257001

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    #307538
    See Pee A
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    The basis the person uses depends on their eventual sales price and if FMV was < or > cost at the gift date.

    If FMV > cost… cost is the basis

    If FMV < cost… sale price > cost… cost is the basis

    … cost > sale price > FMV … cost is the sale price… so 0 gain/loss

    … sale price < FMV… FMV is the basis

    The idea is that it gives you both a lower recognized gain or loss no matter what you sell it at since the basis depends… hope this helps.

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    #307539
    Anonymous
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    You know, after a good night sleep, I just realized how stupid I was…

    When Selling Price is above FMV & Basis, the donor's basis becomes donee's basis.

    When Selling Price is below FMV & Basis, the donee's basis is the lower of the FMV or donor's basis.

    So, if you think about it, if the Basis is lower than FMV, then the donor's basis will become the donee's basis no matter what. So, in my question above, the basis is lower than FMV. So, yeah, the donor's basis becomes the donee's basis. So Selling Price – Basis = Gain. DUH!!! *smacks self*

    #307540
    Anonymous
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    This is the grandma's car rule. Since it was worth more then the basis at the time of the gift the recipient uses her basis and reports a gain of $200 when sold

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