Organizational and start up costs.

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    hopefulcpa28
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    So Becker says,

    $5000 for start up costs & $5000 for organization expenditures are deductible.

    Krisit, a newly organized corporation was formed on June 30, year 1, and began doing business on July 1, year 1, and incurred the following expenses:

    Legal fees for drafting corporate charter $15,000

    Fees paid for accounting services $ 5,000

    Fees paid to state of incorporation $ 3,000

    Cost of selling shares of stock $10,000

    What is the amount she can deduct?

    Answer given by Becker is $5,600

    15000+5000+3000 = 23000.

    23000 – 5000 (shouldn’t that be 10,000?) = 18000

    18000/180 = 100 x 6=600

    5000+600 = 5600.

    I’m confused as to why it’s $5600 and not $10,433 (23,000 – 10,000 = 13000. (13000/180) x 6).

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  • #306760
    Anonymous
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    I'm not at home with Becker in front of me, but I'm pretty sure one can just deduct $5000. Maybe they meant start-up costs and organizational expenses together can be deducted $5,000, but not each one separately (to total $10,000) (as far as I know). There's a rule if the expenses are over $50,000, but that's not the case here.

    #306761
    jeff
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    Tax law changed for Start-up costs in 2010.

    #306762
    jeff
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    From REG NINJA:

    2010 BUSINESS START-UP COSTS

    – Deduct up to $10,000 of business start-up costs

    – Reduced dollar-for-dollar by amount over $60,000

    – Remaining costs are amortized

    #306763
    Anonymous
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    Sorry for my mistake, hopefulcpa28. I didn't realize that I got my info from a pre-'10 source.

    I don't know why Becker's answer is that way, then. Maybe it's a mistake? Maybe they have an update for that question online (they have updates every so often)?

    #306764
    Yvonne570
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    There's been a very critical correction in this area:

    Organization costs: $5000/then amortize SL @ 180 up to $50000

    Start up costs: $10000/then amortize @ 180 up to $60000

    AUD - Passed:)
    FAR - Passed:)
    REG - Retake TBD
    BEC - Missed by 3 points Retake TBD

    #306765
    Anonymous
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    Individuals- $10,000 write off, but once costs exceed $60,000, you lose $1 on the dollar on that write off.

    Corporations- $5,000 write off, but once costs exceed $50,000, you lose $1 on the dollar on that write off.

    I do hope that's right, lol, as I don't have my books with me at the moment.

    #306766
    Anonymous
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    Thanks, CPAMan-

    Got my info from a corp. tax book (didn't look it up now, but I read it a couple of weeks ago), which is why I thought the deductible amount is $5,000 and that rule with the $50,000….

    #306767
    jeff
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    Organizational costs are still $5k/$50k. Startup costs are $10k/$60k.

    #306768
    Anonymous
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    Jeff's correct as usual

    #306769
    hopefulcpa28
    Member

    Thanks, Jeff!!

    I couldn't find the update in Becker. They still have both costs listed at $5000/$50,000.

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