REG Study Group – Q1 2018 - Page 16

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    jeff
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    Welcome to the Q1 2018 CPA Exam Study Group for REG. 🙂

    Introduce yourselves and let your fellow NINJAs know when you plan to take your exam.

    The Five Steps (NINJA Framework): https://www.another71.com/pass-the-cpa-exam/

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  • #1692826
    Katie
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    Post edited ­ please read the forum rules: 
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    #1692874
    Lentilcounter
    Participant

    Is it just the $1.2M in 20 acres of land adjusted basis/2 = $600K AB for 10 acres of land

    $700K-$600K = $100K/2 = $50K to Fred and $50K to Melissa?

    BEC = 72 (6/08/16)
    FAR = ?
    REG = ?
    AUD = ?

    #1692877
    Lentilcounter
    Participant

    I edited my initial post but not sure of what forum rule I broke?



    @Katie

    BEC = 72 (6/08/16)
    FAR = ?
    REG = ?
    AUD = ?

    #1692883
    Recked
    Participant

    I missed the original post, but I'm guessing they did not realize you were talking about the Sample exam questions vs real exam questions?
    Very weird…

    You explanation is correct. According to the TB the original land purchase was 1.2m, for 600k for each 10 acre plot.
    The FMV of the land before distribution was 700k for each lot. The distribution to shareholder counts as sale resulting in 100k gain to corp, of which 50% goes to each shareholder as equal owners. The other shareholder will also receive a cash distribution of 700k.

    Also, one hell of a business.
    Put up 700k a piece, second year revenue at 2m, and already returning 700k each back to the investors/shareholders.
    Not too shabby.

    #1692889
    Katie
    Participant

    I tried to post a link to a google doc on business entities I made that I thought may be helpful, but I don't think they're letting me. I guess you can't post links like that.

    #1692893
    Lentilcounter
    Participant

    @Recked Thanks! Yes I was discussing the PRACTICE exam on the AICPA website. Anyhow, thanks for the confirmation.

    We had talked about the accumulated adjustments account this morning. I find myself struggling with the computation even with understanding of the formula. Falcon's 12/31/year 4 accumulated adjustment account balance = $484K?

    Also, the computation for Jennifer Sullivan's 12/31/year 4 tax basis = $252? I know she starts out with 60K.

    BEC = 72 (6/08/16)
    FAR = ?
    REG = ?
    AUD = ?

    #1692896
    Lentilcounter
    Participant

    @Katie

    That's interesting. I have been able to post Google doc links on here. I did so for the Blueprints a few months ago. Weird.

    BEC = 72 (6/08/16)
    FAR = ?
    REG = ?
    AUD = ?

    #1692899
    Katie
    Participant

    @Lentil

    I remember that problem. Without looking at it, I think I remember that 252 being beginning basis of 60k + share of ord. business inc. of 220K – separately stated charitable contributions of 12K – nondeductible expenses of 1K – distributions of 15K.

    I remembered you posting a link before and that's why I tried. Maybe they just monitor these threads more closely.

    #1692905
    Recked
    Participant

    I'll have to get back to you on the AAA tomorrow Lentil, but it might help if you look at M2 of the 1120S.
    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1120s.pdf
    Page 5

    Maybe print out that M2 and start with beginning and work to ending.
    M2 instructions begin on page 37 of 1120S instructions.
    https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1120s.pdf

    I'm planning to print the M2 and pages 37 & 38 at the office tomorrow and reworking the S corp practice SIM to make sense of what I was doing wrong.
    The IRS even offers an example on pages 38/39 of those instructions that might be helpful.

    #1692919
    Lentilcounter
    Participant

    @Katie Thanks!
    @Recked appreciate it!

    This practice test is making feel dumb. Sigh.

    For the depreciation SIM, how is the depreciation deduction and remaining basis using the actual expense method since purchase calculated?

    Depreciation deduction = $20K cost basis – year 1 depreciation of ($20K*.20*.5)*.75 = $18.5K year 2 beginning cost basis

    $18.5K*.32*.5*.75 = $2,220 but the right answer is $2,600?

    Remaining basis using actual expense method since purchase calculation = year 1 ($5K+$4K+$3K)*.75 = $9K
    year 2 = ($7K+$4K+$2K)*.75 = $9.75K

    $9K+$9.75K = $18.75K

    $20K – $18.75K = $1.25K which is way off from the $14.6K answer?

    Ugh.

    BEC = 72 (6/08/16)
    FAR = ?
    REG = ?
    AUD = ?

    #1692923
    Lentilcounter
    Participant

    @Katie

    Maybe I can help you with posting that Google doc? Did you just try to copy and paste the link into the “Reply to” box or did you use the “link” function available above the “Reply to” box? Also, is there anything in your link address that would be “sensitive” to the filtering software on this forum?

    BEC = 72 (6/08/16)
    FAR = ?
    REG = ?
    AUD = ?

    #1692932
    Recked
    Participant

    2 things you got wrong.
    First, the .5 is already included in the MACRS of 20%.
    If MACRS did not have the half year convention already factored in the first year full year depreciation would be 40% (DDB).

    Second, MACRS does not reduce depreciable basis when factoring 2nd year depreciation.
    You stay with the full 20k, 32%, half, 75%.

    I am not sure what are you doing to calculate remaining basis using actual expense.
    If you use actual expense you take actual depreciation. Other expenses for auto use do not reduce basis in the auto asset, only actual auto depreciation expense claimed reduces the assets basis.

    First year 20,000 x .2 x .75 = 3000
    2nd year 20,000 x .32 x .5(half year in year sold) x .75 business use = 2400
    20000 – 3000 – 2400 = 14,600 auto basis in year 2 when auto sold.

    #1692947
    scattershot
    Participant

    been a long time since my tax class, so let me sure I have this straight:

    MACRS tables have the relevant adjustments already baked in, so when acquiring assets just use the numbers provided.

    but when disposing of assets you'll need to adjust — say, for example, that the car is under the mid quarter convention, placed in service 1/1/x1 and disposed of 12/31/x2

    …x2 depreciation would be 20,000 * .26 * .75 * 10.5/12 ?

    #1692949
    Katie
    Participant

    @Lentil, I just tried to post the main part of the link as an example and it rejected that too. I guess you just aren't allowed to post google docs on here. I tried to go to the list of rules using the link they put in my earlier post and it didn't exist. I give up haha.

    #1692952
    Recked
    Participant

    scatter, no asset will ever be under the mid-quarter convention when sold.

    yes, on the rest.
    MACRS tables already bake in the half year on the front and half year on the back end.
    If sold before the last year then you need to account for the half year.

    refresher
    midqtr only applies if more than 40% of assets are purchased in the last qtr of the year, then you don't get half year

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