Unearned revenue vs deferred revenue

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  • #180823
    calicpa
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    What is the difference?

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    ZSRizvi
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    Unearned revenue = think of customers giving you advances for services you haven't performed (liability).

    Deferred revenue = think of the installment sales method. If collection isn't reasonably assured, then you have to recognize the revenue over a period of time (usually based on cash collections).

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    #455214
    ZSRizvi
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    Unearned revenue = think of customers giving you advances for services you haven't performed (liability).

    Deferred revenue = think of the installment sales method. If collection isn't reasonably assured, then you have to recognize the revenue over a period of time (usually based on cash collections).

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    #455074
    calicpa
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    Isnt what you are describing deferred gross profit? which is a contra to a/r. but deferred revenue is a liability.

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    #455216
    calicpa
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    Isnt what you are describing deferred gross profit? which is a contra to a/r. but deferred revenue is a liability.

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    #455076
    ZSRizvi
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    LOL. Oh man I'm so sorry; I was thinking of deferred gross profit (this is what happens when you study 12-16 hours a day and nothing makes sense anymore).

    Okay, no; there's no difference between unearned/deferred revenue. As far as I know, it's just different terminology.

    Sorry about that!

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    #455217
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    LOL. Oh man I'm so sorry; I was thinking of deferred gross profit (this is what happens when you study 12-16 hours a day and nothing makes sense anymore).

    Okay, no; there's no difference between unearned/deferred revenue. As far as I know, it's just different terminology.

    Sorry about that!

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    #455078
    calicpa
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    yep i know how that goes!

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    #455219
    calicpa
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    yep i know how that goes!

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    #455080
    acamp
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    Deferred Revenue and Unearned are the same thing, IIRC. You defer revenue you have not earned…

    Think magazine subscription, can only recognize revenue as the the magazines are shipped–but the customer already paid!

    I had a client who bundled a lifetime online service (which they previously sold independently, but not on a lifetime basis) with their hardware product. Had to determine

    a. how much of the bundled sale was attributable to the online service

    b. the estimated useful life of the online service, ie: its lifetime, but how long will people actually use it for?!

    It ended up being 8 years for a number of reasons and about $80 dollars of every sale was considered online software. Its recognized at $80/8, or $10 of revenue per year.

    Sell $500 unit

    Dr. Cash $500

    Cr. Revenue $420

    Cr. Deferred Revenue $80 (liability account)

    Every year

    Dr. Deferred Revenue $10

    Cr. Revenue $10

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    #455221
    acamp
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    Deferred Revenue and Unearned are the same thing, IIRC. You defer revenue you have not earned…

    Think magazine subscription, can only recognize revenue as the the magazines are shipped–but the customer already paid!

    I had a client who bundled a lifetime online service (which they previously sold independently, but not on a lifetime basis) with their hardware product. Had to determine

    a. how much of the bundled sale was attributable to the online service

    b. the estimated useful life of the online service, ie: its lifetime, but how long will people actually use it for?!

    It ended up being 8 years for a number of reasons and about $80 dollars of every sale was considered online software. Its recognized at $80/8, or $10 of revenue per year.

    Sell $500 unit

    Dr. Cash $500

    Cr. Revenue $420

    Cr. Deferred Revenue $80 (liability account)

    Every year

    Dr. Deferred Revenue $10

    Cr. Revenue $10

    Ninja + Wiley Test Bank: [FAR - 81] [REG - 76] [BEC - 88] [AUD - 73](doh!)

    Becker Videos: [AUD - 82]

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