Sale(Finance) Lease question-Becker - Page 2

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    Howe Co. leased equipment to Kew Corp. on January 2, Year 1, for an eight-year period expiring December 31, Year 8. Equal payments under the lease are $600,000 and are due on January 2 of each year. The first payment was made on January 2, Year 1. The list selling price of the equipment is $3,520,000 and its carrying cost on Howe’s books is $2,800,000. The lease is appropriately accounted for as a sales-type (finance) lease. The present value of the lease payments at an imputed interest rate of 12% (Howe’s incremental borrowing rate) is $3,300,000. What amount of profit on the sale should Howe report for the year ended December 31, Year 1?
    a. $500,000 b. $0 c. $90,000 d. $720,000
    Explanation
    Choice “a” is correct. The excess of the present value of the selling price over its cost is recorded as profit.
    Present value of payments $ 3,300,000
    Carrying cost (2,800,000)
    Profit on sale $ 500,000

    My question: Becker’s lecture stated sales (finance) lease should include two profits (Gain on Sale & interest income on the sale). Where is the interest income in this answer?? THANK YOU.

     
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    #21 #22 are different because in #21 they didnt provide you the present value of payment so you use the selling price to compute.

    #22 give you the pv of payments. Therefore u use that. Sp is not always the best one to use because they list price and u can buy it for less price.

    But i'm confused on wording.. They say pv of payments is the representative of its FV… which makes sense.. But.. When u do bonds problems, pv is not fv. They are different πŸ™

    #470266
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    Bond problems are easier for me than lease problems. I have to work on lease m/cs more. It takes time to understand. Good luck to you, December4th!!! πŸ™‚

    FAR 81 βœ“
    AUD 97 βœ“
    BEC 75 βœ“
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    #470327
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    Bond problems are easier for me than lease problems. I have to work on lease m/cs more. It takes time to understand. Good luck to you, December4th!!! πŸ™‚

    FAR 81 βœ“
    AUD 97 βœ“
    BEC 75 βœ“
    REG 84 βœ“

    #470268
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    Thank you! You too!!!

    #470329
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    Thank you! You too!!!

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    JE #21

    (January 2nd)

    (dr). Lease Receivable 3,300,000

    (cr,) Sales 3,300,000

    (dr.) COGS 2,800,000

    (cr), Inventory 2,800,000

    (dr) Cash 600,000

    (cr) Lease Receivable 600,000

    (Decmeber 31 Y2)

    Intrest Receivable ((3,300,000 – 600,000) * .12) 324,000

    Intrest Revenue 324,000

    (January 1st Y2)

    Dr. Cash 600,000

    Cr. Intrest Receivable 324,000

    Cr. Lease Receivable 276,000

    #22 would follow a simmilar pattern. Try to use PV if given, if not use the assumed FMV. Personally both questions are piss poor because their PV do not tie to thier rates.

    Example #21 in excel use the formula: =PV(0.12,8,600000,0,1) and you get 3,338 k

    Example #22, is a little closer at 3,521k

    I guess it is more based on theory; which it looks like you have.

    @December 4 – Can you elaborate when the PV of a bond does not equal its FV (I assume you mean Fair Market Value and not Future Value) on the day of issue?

    ALL 4 parts passed summer 13
    Ethics October 13
    Experience (waiting)

    Becker Only

    #470331

    JE #21

    (January 2nd)

    (dr). Lease Receivable 3,300,000

    (cr,) Sales 3,300,000

    (dr.) COGS 2,800,000

    (cr), Inventory 2,800,000

    (dr) Cash 600,000

    (cr) Lease Receivable 600,000

    (Decmeber 31 Y2)

    Intrest Receivable ((3,300,000 – 600,000) * .12) 324,000

    Intrest Revenue 324,000

    (January 1st Y2)

    Dr. Cash 600,000

    Cr. Intrest Receivable 324,000

    Cr. Lease Receivable 276,000

    #22 would follow a simmilar pattern. Try to use PV if given, if not use the assumed FMV. Personally both questions are piss poor because their PV do not tie to thier rates.

    Example #21 in excel use the formula: =PV(0.12,8,600000,0,1) and you get 3,338 k

    Example #22, is a little closer at 3,521k

    I guess it is more based on theory; which it looks like you have.

    @December 4 – Can you elaborate when the PV of a bond does not equal its FV (I assume you mean Fair Market Value and not Future Value) on the day of issue?

    ALL 4 parts passed summer 13
    Ethics October 13
    Experience (waiting)

    Becker Only

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