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August 9, 2012 at 9:37 pm #173135
Dawn TParticipantI graduated about a year ago with my Master’s in accounting. At the time, I decided that I probably wasn’t going to get my licensure. However, since then, I have been given notice at my job and I have a few more months to begin looking for a new one. When I began looking around, I realized that majority of the jobs within my pay range and experience level all require CPA licensure.
Ok, so here’s where I need help….
Where do I begin? I have been out of school for a little over a year….
Register first or Study materials first?
Which section should I take first?
And I’m scared. I’m on a super super super tight budget and need to make sure that I pass the exams asap.
Thanks so much for helping out a newbie!!! 🙂 Appreciate it lots!
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August 9, 2012 at 10:01 pm #361676
GivemesleepMemberDo one subsection at a time. Please listen to my next sentence if you want a good trip. DONT SAVE FAR FOR LAST. DO IT FIRST. Aud is the easiest if you are a theory person. BEC is hard as hell but short. REG was easy for me, tax person. This process is a nightmare emotionally. If I could do it over again, I would do 8 weeks each section, no more or less. Too much is a killer, I saved 3 months for FAR and if you are motivated, 2 months is enough of the hell. You start tp forget it all. DONT QUIT ever ever ever.
Reg 11/15/2011 - 80
Aud 02/28/2012 - 81
Bec 05/31/2012 - 78
Far 08/31/2012 - 83 Do you believe in Miracles, YES !!!CPA License received 10/2012 !!
CFE License received 04/2013 !!
EA License receivedGivemesleep
August 9, 2012 at 10:05 pm #361677
jokamiMemberI TOTALLY agree with Givemesleep…. I think FARE should be your first exam!!!!!
Try to take a review that satisfy your expectations…
B - 62, 70, 72, 79!!!
A - 68, 81
R - 70, 82
F - 84"The limit to your abilities is where you place them" - Fortune Cookies
August 9, 2012 at 10:12 pm #361678
AnonymousInactiveBEC being “hard as hell” is probably an exaggeration as the material itself is probably the most straight forward and intuitive although obviously it comes down to a person's strengths and weaknesses. I would agree that it'd be a good idea to get FAR down first just because it gives you a solid foundation relative to the other tests.
August 9, 2012 at 10:15 pm #361679
Mr. MiniMemberMake an investment in yourself. Dont just buy the cheapest materials you can find and expect to pass all four exams as quickly as possible.
What is your work experience in? This would dictate the order of the exams for me. If you know you qualify to sit for the exams, start studying now. Your application will be processed while you are studying.
Good luck!
August 9, 2012 at 10:18 pm #361680
nearly_thereMemberCall you state accounting board to find what exactly the order of things that need to be done. First you need to apply for permission to sit, then apply to actually sit for a particular section. There is a bunch of paperwork that needs to be completed as far as I know and it all takes time. So start now.
I would do FAR then AUD…. then REG or BEC in any order.
As far as materials, you can probably get some used books on ebay or something, just make sure they are 2012 edition. I can vouch for Gleim to be quite decent, but I'm sure there are many others that are also pretty good and are even cheaper.
FAR - 85 November 2011
AUD - 81 January 2012
REG - 68 March 2012
BEC - 86 April 2012
REG - 92 July 2012August 9, 2012 at 10:18 pm #361681
jokamiMember@cardinalhoya
BEC is hard as hell and worst!!!
B - 62, 70, 72, 79!!!
A - 68, 81
R - 70, 82
F - 84"The limit to your abilities is where you place them" - Fortune Cookies
August 9, 2012 at 10:20 pm #361682
Dawn TParticipantThank you!! 🙂 I am registering for FAR now….
As far as study materials go…. which should one would you recommend?
Unfortunately, I was so excited about graduating and never having to go back to school and study, I sold all my books when I was done. I need to start from scratch as far as study materials go. ouch.
August 9, 2012 at 10:22 pm #361683August 9, 2012 at 10:36 pm #361684
ScruffMcGruffMemberAlright, here's a step-by-step breakdown on what I think the best course of action for you would be:
Step 1: Choose a Review Course – Before you even register for the test, take a day or so and shop around all of the different review courses that are out there. There are a lot of good ones out there such as Becker, Wiley, Yaeger, Gleim, ect.. With that being said, there are literally 100s of stories for each review course saying how great or terrible they are. Although I have only used Becker to review, in my honest opinion, it really just comes down to how dedicated you are to passing the CPA. If you put a solid 100-150 hours in to studying ANY of the sections, I really think you can pass, regardless of what class you use. One thing to point out though is that some of the courses cost a lot more than others (i.e. Becker I believe is around $2,500 to get all 4 parts while others you might be able to get for under $1,000). Since you said you are on a tight budget, you will probably want to check out some of the major courses and see which one is the cheapest. Again though, I wouldn't really associate greater cost for my review course to mean better success on the CPA. It's really more about how much effort YOU put into it.
Step 2: Register with Your State to Take the Exam – After you order your review course, make it a priority to get registered with your state to take the exam. It could take 3-4 weeks (or more…) to get your Notice to Schedule (aka NTS – the document you need to have to register to sit for a section of the CPA). If you need more information on how to sign up in your state, there should be information available on http://www.aicpa.com that gives specific instructions on how to do this (and/or they will give you a direct link to your states Board of Examiners website).
Step 3: Choose a Test to Study For – Similar to step 1, everyone is going to have their own story on which test was the hardest and which was the easiest. With that being said, in general I think most people would agree with this ranking system for the four tests:
‘Easiest' Tests = AUD and BEC
Hardest Tests = FAR and REG < — These tests are #1 and #2 in the number of pages you will be required to read in your review course and also will require you to remember the most calculations/formulas
In general, I would suggest knocking out the hardest tests (FAR and REG) first. This is mainly due to the fact that if you have trouble passing your last 1-2 tests, you don't want them to be the ones that are the worst to study for. On the other hand, you might actually be more comfortable doing one of the ‘easier' tests first (I would recommend AUD since it has the least amount of material) just so you can get comfortable with the review and test format.
With the above being said, I would suggest taking the tests as follows: AUD > FAR > REG > BEC.
Step 4: Study for the Test – The best way to study for each test (using a review course) I believe can be best broken down into five sub-steps like this:
1) Watch the video lecture for one chapter (i.e. about 100 pages in Becker) of the section and highlight the main points discussed in your textbook.
2) Get a notebook and re-write EACH chapter in your own handwriting. Make sure to focus your notes around areas which you are weak in and/or don't understand well.
3) After writing out notes for the chapter, do all the required MCQs for that Chapter.
4) Repeat steps 1-3 for the remaining chapters
5) Once you feel comfortable with the MCQs you have done (hopefully are getting at least 75-80% in each section) do some of the final simulations that are included within your review course. After completing these with a decent score (again 75-80% at least), you should be ready to take the exam.
Step 5: Test Day! – This is going to be different for everyone. Some people like to cram (like me) on test day. Other people have come to the realization that if they don't know something by test day, they are f'd anyhow. Figure out which type of person you are and apply accordingly…
Once you get to the testing center, try to have SOME things for the test memorized as you will be given a sheet of paper that you can dump all your thoughts on before you start the test (I highly recommend this).
Additionally, note that all 4 of the tests have the same general format – there are 3 ‘testlets' with 24-30 MCQs in them and then there is a set of roughly 6-7 ‘simulation' questions (or 3 ‘writing simulations' if you are taking BEC) that you need to get through within 3-4 hours depending on what test you are taking. The MCQs are generally worth 60-70% of your score, while the simulations are worth 30-40% of your score. With that being said, I cannot stress enough how important it is to get through the ENTIRE test. This means that you really need to be diligent while you are answering your MCQs. If you don't know one of the MCQs, move on, it's NOT the end of the world. In the final analysis, missing one or two MCQs is worth MUCH less than missing 1-2 simulation questions because you didn't have enough time on the back end to finish them.
Finally, my last bit of advise is that once you leave the testing center don't stress out or go all emo because you think you failed. This is easier said than done, but to be totally honest most people that pass their first few parts (or all of them…) think that they failed the test after walking out of it. From personal experience, after walking out of my first test (AUD) I totally thought I failed. When I found out a month later that I got an 85 on AUD, I was totally surprised I did that well. Anyhow, just don't beat yourself up for a month when there's nothing you can do anymore to effect the outcome of your test.
After spending a good 30-45 minutes typing this out, I'm going to take a break. I'll come back here and update this later (if needed). Good luck!
AUD - 85
FAR - 78 (lol@ FAR Sims)
REG - 85
BEC - AugustAugust 9, 2012 at 11:06 pm #361685
AnonymousInactiveAugust 9, 2012 at 11:22 pm #361686
ScruffMcGruffMemberCardinal, I'm studying for BEC right now. Becker's BEC textbook has 5 chapters which consist of the following:
Chapter 1 – Corporate Governance and Operations Management
Chapter 2 – Economics
Chapter 3 – Finance
Chapter 4 – Information Systems / Technology
Chapter 5 – Strategic Planning
Chapters 1 and 5 are the cost and managerial accounting portions of the test (i.e. the ‘hard' part), and chapters 3-5 are some of the easier topics (or at least in my opinion they are).
AUD - 85
FAR - 78 (lol@ FAR Sims)
REG - 85
BEC - AugustAugust 9, 2012 at 11:47 pm #361687
jenuno01MemberI think you should get Becker. It's a good investment. They have financing options too. Follow their program exactly as it's layed out, pass all your exams, get a new job and start making payments on it lol. I was pretty lucky and my job payed for it, but I would've forked my own money to Becker. It's just that good.
Class of 2012
August 10, 2012 at 4:02 am #361688
AnonymousInactiveIf you are currently working under a CPA, get them to sign off on your experience before you leave. This way when you pass your exams, you can get licensed in only a few weeks. It's a lot harder once you have left to get your boss to sign off.
Good luck.
August 11, 2012 at 12:22 am #361689
Dawn TParticipantThanks so much!!!
Unfortunately, I do not work under a licensed CPA. That's my other problem as well…. I have to find a new job with a licensed CPA so that they can sign off for me.
Ok, so… has anyone used the Ninja videos and notes? Do you think it will suffice? Or should I just go with the Becker?
Thanks!!
August 11, 2012 at 2:18 pm #361690
AnonymousInactiveLook at other courses before buying Becker. I'm using Yaeger and have had a lot of success with their course (passed the 3 I've taken on first try), plus they're so much cheaper! A lot of Becker students end up buying the Wiley online testbank anyways, and that comes with Yaeger. No matter which course you use, you can't half-ass study. You have to pour your heart and soul into this exam if you expect to pass.
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