Pension expense, expected or actual return on plan assets?

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  • #180004
    calicpa
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    For the 3rd component of pension expense, is component 3 ACTUAL or EXPECTED return on plan assets?

    CPAexcel says its expected

    WTB and gleim say its actual…..

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  • #456789
    Anonymous
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    I do not have CPAexcel, but I think you talk about expected return on plan assets

    Beginning Fair Value of Plan Assets x Expected Rate.

    #456934
    Anonymous
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    I do not have CPAexcel, but I think you talk about expected return on plan assets

    Beginning Fair Value of Plan Assets x Expected Rate.

    #456791
    NYCaccountant
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    It's supposed to be expected return on plan assets. Wiley Adjustes the actual return, so that it equals expected. Technically your supposed to use expected, and the difference between expected and actual should go to OCI. It would then be amortized over the service period to Net Income.

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    #456936
    NYCaccountant
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    It's supposed to be expected return on plan assets. Wiley Adjustes the actual return, so that it equals expected. Technically your supposed to use expected, and the difference between expected and actual should go to OCI. It would then be amortized over the service period to Net Income.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #456793

    @NYCaccountant, I agree; and it is only amortized if it falls out of the corridor (cumulative Gain or Loss is > 10% of pbo or fmv of assets)

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    #456938

    @NYCaccountant, I agree; and it is only amortized if it falls out of the corridor (cumulative Gain or Loss is > 10% of pbo or fmv of assets)

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    #456795
    calicpa
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    What to answer on the exam??

    Which of the following components should be included in the calculation of net pension cost recognized for a period by an employer sponsoring a defined benefit pension plan?

    Interest cost Actual return

    on plan assets

    A. Yes No

    B. Yes Yes

    C. No Yes

    D. No No

    BEC - 84, 4/6/13
    AUD - 77, 5/28/13
    REG - 83, 4/12/14
    FAR - 83, 10/3/13

    Ethics - 90% 4/24/13

    150 unit education requirement met!
    Work experience met!

    #456940
    calicpa
    Participant

    What to answer on the exam??

    Which of the following components should be included in the calculation of net pension cost recognized for a period by an employer sponsoring a defined benefit pension plan?

    Interest cost Actual return

    on plan assets

    A. Yes No

    B. Yes Yes

    C. No Yes

    D. No No

    BEC - 84, 4/6/13
    AUD - 77, 5/28/13
    REG - 83, 4/12/14
    FAR - 83, 10/3/13

    Ethics - 90% 4/24/13

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    Work experience met!

    #456797
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Yes, no You are supposed to use expected return. You can use actual return if it's the same as expected return though.

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    #456942
    NYCaccountant
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    Yes, no You are supposed to use expected return. You can use actual return if it's the same as expected return though.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

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