Like kind exchange?

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    On January 1, Feld traded a delivery truck and paid $10,000 cash for a tow truck owned by Baker. The delivery truck had an original cost of $140,000, accumulated depreciation of $80,000, and an estimated fair value of $90,000. Feld estimated the fair value of Baker’s tow truck to be $100,000. The transaction had commercial substance. What amount of gain should be recognized by Feld?

    A. $0

    B. $3,000

    C. $10,000

    D. $30,000

    Feld should recognize $30,000 gain:

    Value received ($100,000 value of

    tow truck less $10,000) $90,000

    Book value of delivery truck:

    Cost $140,000

    Accumulated depreciation 80,000 60,000


    Gain $30,000

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    Exchange Gain/Loss

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    I understand the 30,000 gain but why do you recognize the gain when this is a truck for truck exchange?

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  • #612233
    Rocky123
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    Because it has commercial substance.

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    #612234
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    Commercial Substance=Dissimilar=Non like-kind=Affects Cashflows

    FAR - 71, 68, 74, (8/31/14) 78 ✔
    REG - 67, 71, 71, (10/18/14) 78 ✔
    BEC - (11/29/14) 86 ✔
    AUD - 73, (4/4/15) 86 ✔

    I can't believe this is over! 2 years and 3 months..

    #612235
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    So since it has commercial substance, the gain is FV of new property minus CV of old property and cash paid. So how come in another question, the gain is FV of old property minus BV of old property?


    A company exchanged land with an appraised value of $50,000 and an original cost of $20,000 for machinery with a fair value of $55,000. Assuming that the transaction has commercial substance, what is the gain on the exchange?

    A. $0

    B. $5,000

    C. $30,000

    D. $35,000

    Nonmonetary exchanges are generally recorded at fair value.

    Value of property exchanged $50,000

    Original cost 20,000


    Gain on exchange $30,000

    #612236
    Anonymous
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    The gain is always FV of old asset – CV of old asset. In the first example it follows this model as such:

    Estimated fair value of $90,000

    CV – $60,000

    Gain = $30,000

    Delivery truck had an original cost of $140,000, accumulated depreciation of $80,000

    #612237
    needhelpnow
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    OK, so question..

    ..Had it been a “Like-Kind exchange” and, NO commercial substance, would the below calculations be accurate? (Please correct it where you find applicable.) Thank you!

    Amount Realized =

    +100K FMV of NEW

    – 10K Boot Paid (Cash Paid)

    =90K Amount Realized

    Realized Gain =

    +90K Amount Realized

    -60K NBV of Old

    =30K Realized Gain

    Boot= Cash Received (0) + Liab Received (0) + Non-Link Kind Exchange (0) – Liab Assumed (0)

    Therefore Boot = 0

    Recognized Gain = LESSER of Realized Gain or Boot Received.

    Which means, Recognized Gain = 0

    Please correct me if I am wrong! Thank you!!

    #612238
    needhelpnow
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    I am trying to stick to the formula instead of just looking at the question and doing the calculations in my head…and in this case with commercial substance involved, how would I correctly use the formula? Please explain. Thank you!

    #612239
    Rocky123
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    I don't really understand this concept either. Forget bonds. THIS is my weakest area. For some reason, it just doesn't make sense to me. At all!

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    #612240
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    Wait, wait, wait

    Carrying value = 20

    Appraised value = 50

    Traded for asset with “fair value” =55

    Why wouldn't it be 35 realized/recognized?

    The problem says fair value. Why isn't that a better measure than appraised value? If the machinery has a fair value of 55, then whatever you traded for it at an arm's length transaction must have had a fair market value of 55 as well.

    #612241
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    #612242
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    I prefer to solve these questions by writing out the JE. In general, the JE for a nonmonetary exchange with commercial substance would be:

    DR..New asset @ FV

    DR..Accumulated depreciation of old asset

    DR..Cash received, if any

    DR..Loss, if any

    CR…….Old asset @ original cost

    CR…….Cash paid, if any

    CR…….Gain, if any

    For the delivery truck question, it would be:

    DR..New truck…………………$100,000

    DR..Accum. depr old truck..$ 80,000

    CR…….Old truck……………………………..$140,000

    CR…….Cash paid……………………………$ 10,000

    CR…….Gain……………………………………$ 30,000

    #612243
    Rocky123
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    @Casy

    Thanks for the tip. I'll work on the homework for this topic today and give this approach a shot.

    Any insight for the ones that lack commerical substance?

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    #612244
    Anonymous
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    That is easier with journal entries. Good call Casey.

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