Intercompany transactions are killing me

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  • #192002
    Jasminekoko
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    Hello,

    I’m having such a hard time to jot down the Intercompany transactions. I’m totally LOST. Becker does poorly on the subject. Could anyone please give me hint, notes, anything that could help to grasp this topic? It’s much appreciated.

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  • #647349
    Anonymous
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    Hi, I am using Becker too and I don't feel very much confidence. My trick is you have to know what JE the company record, then reverse it. The goal is to eliminate all the transactions in intercompanies account like recevables, sales, gains, COGS…. between parent and sub. I hope it helps! Would like to hear other people's opinion too.

    #647350
    OnMyWay732
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    Understand the concept behind these. If you understand why and what you're doing, the actual practice makes more sense. Use Investopedia, or just Google if it helps. Becker isn't your only option. If there was anything in Becker I didn't understand I looked elsewhere

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    #647351
    Anonymous
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    Agreed.

    I think the key is to take it in one bit at a time. I would focus more on the overall consolidation since any sim that has to to do with inter company transactions will be shadowed by consolidations. Inter Co. transactions is one element of the consolidation. You are guaranteed at least 1 MCQ on Inter Co. but will get 2 MCQ's max.

    #647352
    Anonymous
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    I agree – I am struggling with IC transactions and Becker does a really poor job of explaining the topic. I can solve most of the Becker MCQs, but only because I have memorized how to do it – not because I necessarily understand it. I understand what to eliminate but for things like COGS and inventory, I really struggle with coming up with the dollar value that needs to be eliminated. If anyone has a good resource for this section, please let me know.

    #647353
    NYCaccountant
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    A simple way to look at it is – company A sells company B sneakers for 5,000. Now, we know the 5,000 includes a markup, which represents the profit on the sale for company A. Let's say the sneakers cost company A 3k, so gross profit on sale for company A is 2,000. Journal entries below for both entities – assuming inventory was bought on credit.

    Debit – COGS – 3,000

    Credit – sales – 5,000

    credit – inventory – 3,000

    Debit – Accounts receivable – 5,000

    This is the entry for company A.

    Company B records this entry:

    Debit – Inventory – 5,000

    Credit – Accounts payable -5,000

    Now lets assume the company B still has the inventory on hand as of year end, we know for consolidation purposes, you can't owe your self money, and you there can no inter company gains on transactions or else companies will be pumping revenue numbers at year end on sales to themselves.

    So we need to eliminate the payable and receivable, so we just offset them against each other:

    Debit – Accounts payable – 5,000

    Credit – Accounts receivable – 5,000

    This eliminates the amount the company owes to itself.

    Then we need to eliminate the gain on the transaction that company A recorded as result of he sale. We do this by basically eliminating the original transaction as if it never happened:

    debit- sales – 5,000

    credit- cogs – 3,000

    debit- inventory – 3,000

    credit – inventory- 5,000

    This is one way of doing it and basically eliminates the 2k increase in inventory and 2k gross profit the company would have shown on the year end balance sheet.

    Now where it gets tricky is when company B sales some of the inventory to a third party, which is ok. Same rules apply.

    We know the gross margin on the sale is 40% (2,000 gross profit/$5,000 sales price), which means the original cost of the inventory is 60% of the sales price (3,000/5,000), so lets say company B has 2,000 in inventory left from the original sale from company A, 40% of this represents inter company gain, which needs to be eliminated. An easy way to do is to just combine all sales, cogs and then figure it out from there. So lets say company b sells 3,000 worth of inventory for 4,000, we know that 3,000 includes profit from company a which needs to be eliminated (40%), and this would mean company B has inventory left on hand of 2,000, which also contains profit from company A (40%) which needs to be eliminated. So add the total cogs from both entities (3,000 from company A, 3,000 from company B for a total of 6,000). Now add the total sales from both companies, 5,000 for company A and 4,000 for company B for a total of 9,000). Now we know that COGS is wrong because it includes a gross profit from company A which needs to be eliminated, since company B sold 60% of the inventory it bought (3,000/5,000), we know the cost of sales should be 60% of the original value from company A (3,000*60%=1,800). Again total cogs added up is 6,000, so we must post a credit of 4,200 to correct it. Of the 2,000 left in inventory for company B, we need to eliminate the gross profit (40%, so 40%*2,000=800). And now we look at total sales, which is 9k (4k plus 5k), well only 4k is real and came from a third party, so 5k must be eliminated. So the entry to fix the entire is below:

    Debit – Sales – 5,000

    Credit – Cogs – 4,200

    Credit Inventory – 800

    Basically, of the 3,000 in originally inventory, 40% should be left (2,000-800=1,200), since you company B sold 60%. It comes down to removing the gross profit between the sale between company A and company B, so that the inventory is properly valued at year end.

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    #647354
    Hank Scorpio
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    I really struggled with this and a couple other subjects that Becker tried to teach on in FAR. I ended up watching You Tube videos of Roger's or whoever I could find. I found that a different perspective helped me to understand a few of the subject matters better. Watching a half hour video was worth it to me rather than spending time trying to understand the MCQ's that I couldn't understand even with Becker's explanation.

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    #647355
    Jasminekoko
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    @NYCAccountant: Thank you so much for your thorough explanation. Much Appreciated. Could you please be my tutor?

    @Hank.Scorpio: I agreed. I did watch Roger on Equity method and like the way he teaches. Can you please provide websites and topics of Becker that you have problems with in which that you found it useful by watching videos from the internet? I am currently on F4, I bet F5 and F6 are hard. Thanks.

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