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September 14, 2016 at 8:42 pm #836137
jeff
KeymasterWelcome to the Q4 2016 CPA Exam Study Group for FAR.
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December 5, 2016 at 4:55 pm #1371326
emichelle2321
ParticipantThat is worded tricky.
I think the main thing to note for this one is – you are increasing the numerator (NI + interest expense net of tax ($49)). Think about the way the dilutive calc is done. If you are adding $49 in earnings to only 40 more common stock shares it's 1.225, less than basic aka dilutive. Compared to the 10% bond for example which is adding $70 of earnings to 20 shares.
Does that make any sense?
December 5, 2016 at 5:01 pm #1371329emichelle2321
ParticipantAlso to follow up – you consider IE an addition to “earnings” because if the bonds were converted, you obviously wouldn't be charged interest expense on the bonds once converted since it will not be incurred. Hopefully that helps. I need to go back and review this area as well.
Any idea on how heavily they test on EPS?
December 5, 2016 at 5:06 pm #1371332moonyock
ParticipantSo quick question I am taking my exam on Wednesday and I am having a crisis of confidence. I have been using NINJA for over a month and have about 110 hours in for study time. Have been feeling really good and I am trending in the 90's with test exams in the 80's.
However, I also have access to Wiley and was doing some multiple choice questions, and there are certain questions where the answers are different between NINJA and Wiley? How can this be? sure the numbers are different but the underlying concepts are the same.
The particular question in question that I noticed this on is:
From Wiley
On January 1, year 1, Ball, Inc. purchased a $1,000,000 ordinary life insurance policy on its president. The policy year and Ball’s accounting year coincide. Additional data are available for the year ended December 31, year 3.Cash surrender value, 1/1/Y3 $43,500
Cash surrender value, 12/31/Y3 54,000
Annual advance premium paid 1/1/Y3 20,000
Dividend received 7/1/Y3 3,000
Ball, Inc. is the beneficiary under the life insurance policy. How much should Ball report as life insurance expense for year 3?
$ 6,500
$ 9,500
$17,000
$20,000From NINJA
In 20X1, Chain, Inc., purchased a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on its president, of which Chain is the beneficiary. Information regarding the policy for the year ending December 31, 20X6, follows:Cash surrender value (01/01/X6) $ 87,000
Cash surrender value (12/31/X6) 108,000
Annual advance premium paid (01/01/X6) 40,000During 20X6, dividends of $6,000 were applied to increase the cash surrender value of the policy. What amount should Chain report as life insurance expense for 20X6?
A.
$40,000B.
$25,000C.
$19,000D.
$13,000In Wiley the answer is A $6,500, in NINJA it is C. $19,000. It would seem under Wiley's method NINJA's answer should be D, and under NINJA's method Wiley should be B. Is there something I am completely missing here? I feel like I can't trust what I've been learning for the past 2 months. Please help.
December 5, 2016 at 5:35 pm #1371353jcman240
Participant@ Andrew Muniak – It looks like one has the dividends figured in while the other requires you figure them in. In the 1st question you need to add the $3K dividends to the cash surrender value (or just subtract from expense) to get to the correct expense total (54000+3000-43500) = 13500 20000-13500= 6500
The 2nd one has the dividend figured into the cash surrender value already. so 108-87 = 21 40-21 = 19
Just my two cents, but I would spend a good amount of time looking at sims and the journal entries necessary to get them done. I was at 90% last week when I took my exam and I felt ok on the MC but the sims messed me up.
Good Luck.
December 5, 2016 at 7:15 pm #1371447Anonymous
Inactiveemichelle Yes, your explanation helps explain it. thanks
December 5, 2016 at 10:43 pm #1371641Anonymous
Inactivestick a fork in me man hedging losses on firm purchase commitment. when contract price is 1.55 and you expect prices to decrease to 1.45 at year end you would recognize loss and then take short position on derivative to hedge loss on purchase commitment. I get it now but this is ONLY FOR A PURCHASE COMMITMENT
usually you take a long position when making purchases because you don't want price to decrease but this is an exception i guess.
December 5, 2016 at 10:44 pm #1371642Anonymous
Inactivedon;t want price to *increase*
December 5, 2016 at 11:02 pm #1371659Anonymous
InactiveFair value hedge and firm purchase commitment then loss if price declines at year end and hedge loss on Firm PC by taking short position in forward contract.
When you purchase inventory under firm commitment at contract price you are paying the contract price minus the net settlement from fair value hedge.
after an hour of thinking about it I finally get it
December 6, 2016 at 12:45 am #1371698emichelle2321
ParticipantDecember 6, 2016 at 1:42 am #1371707mtaylo24
Participant^^^^Yup, the sims are good. I got tired of feeling dumb w/ the MCQs, so I made today (well, i guess now yesterday) a reading day. Read the entire Gleim book (ch 1-20), by following the along with the audios. Also read the entire Ninja notes and all of the Gleim “summary of core concepts” today. Probably did only 80 MCQs.
I still need to find time to do the ultimate IFRS review before Friday.
AUD - 1st - 60 (12/12), 61 (2/13), 61 (8/13), 78! (11/15)
REG - 55 (2/16) 69 (5/16) Retake(8/16)
BEC - 71(5/16) Retake (9/16)
FAR - (8/16)December 6, 2016 at 2:16 am #1371708blithesherry
ParticipantDear ALL,
– I heard NO SIMULATION PROBLEMs are from “Governmental Accounting Section” and “Non-for-Profit
Accounting” on the CPA exam? Is that true?-I have been working on the simulations. Totally lost confidence. For those have taken the CPA exam recently, based on your experience, how should prepare for the simulations? Too much content, what kind of areas should really focus on? Any help would really appreciated !!!
December 6, 2016 at 6:41 am #1371720mckan514w
Participant^^^^ without breaking any confidentiality agreements let me just say that what you have “heard” is not true at all. Anything and everything is fair game on SIMS – including Government, NFP and IFRS and sometimes all three can show up on your SIMS. They can and DO show up in any manner of torturous details…
I am / have never been to sure how to prepare for SIMS other than making sure that you know how to do Journal Entries for EVERY TOPIC and are aware of how things “flow together” — I would definitely suggest going through a couple of practice ones provided by your prep course but am not sure spending a lot of time on them is necessarily worth the energy.
What I have been doing this go round is to make sure on the MCQ's that I know how to put it all together not just how to answer the question if that makes sense. Good Luck!
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2December 6, 2016 at 9:03 am #1371758Anonymous
InactiveWell I decided to push FAR back until January, I'm not nearly prepared enough to take it this Friday. I feel terrible that this will be the third time I've rescheduled an exam but I really don't want to have to pay for another NTS. The plan now is FAR first week of January and then REG retake in March.
Best of luck to all of you this week, I know you will crush this exam! Hope to see good news from everyone on the 16th!
December 6, 2016 at 10:21 am #1371830Anonymous
InactiveMan no shame in it at all!
FAR constitutes 2 exams in one. My mindset before taking the past 3 parts has been that if I didn't pass I would die and it has worked so far. PLus I have the added motivation of having to listening to my ex boss say ” oh well you might slip up on FAR” and just constant ish talk. Just passing isnt good enough its kill or be killed and thats what im coming with.
December 6, 2016 at 10:30 am #1371842mckan514w
ParticipantAgree with charile54 no shame at all- in fact I often wonder if I would have passed my first go round when I KNEW I wasn't prepared enough and SHOULD push it back but didn't because I thought there would be some “shame” in doing that…
You will kill it in January! Okay finally push is on for me… looking at Business consolidations today then will revisit my good old friend Govt…
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2 -
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