FAR Study Group Q2 2016 - Page 58

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  • #764526
    Oneday
    Participant

    Accidental double post

    #764527
    Oneday
    Participant

    ABTX411//

    Thank you for the explanation. I think I kind of get it now.

    Would the journal entry for the gain be like this?:

    Dr. Cash 170,000
    Dr. Gain on ARO 50,000
    Cr. ARO Obligation 220,000

    #764528
    ABTX411
    Participant

    No, you have it backwards. This is a cash OUTflow, and a gain is always a credit. So it's:

    Dr. ARO 220,000
    Cr. Gain on ARO 50,000
    Cr. Cash 170,000

    The key to this one is terminology. A good example of an ARO is like a mine. The mining company knows that once they have extracted all of the minerals from the mine, they will have to shut the mine down and return the land to a safe and usable state. This restoration will cost a lot of money. The future payment (obligation) to restore the land is the ARO.

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    #764529
    Oneday
    Participant

    ABTX411 ////Ah hahaha my bad … I hate it when I have to type out the journal entries… Thank you for the help!

    #764530
    Oneday
    Participant

    One more question.. I'm not sure why we're taxing a loss from this Discontinued Operation. Don't we only apply tax on gains? I remember that Net Operating Loss rule says loss are carried 2 years back and 20 years forward for deduction… Why isn't it the case here?

    A company decided to sell an unprofitable division of its business. The company can sell the entire operation for $800,000, and the buyer will assume all assets and liabilities of the operations. The tax rate is 30%. The assets and liabilities of the discontinued operation are as follows:

    Buildings $5,000,000
    Accumulated depreciation 3,000,000
    Mortgage on buildings 1,100,000
    Inventory 500,000
    Accounts payable 600,000
    Accounts receivable 200,000
    What is the after-tax net loss on the disposal of the division?

    Correct answer A.
    $140,000

    B.
    $200,000

    C.
    $1,540,000

    D.
    $2,200,000

    #764531
    ABTX411
    Participant

    You're not taxing the loss. You're reducing the loss by the net effect of the tax that you would have paid on your net income if you had not had the loss to offset the income. So the pre-tax loss is calculated as the proceeds from the sale of $800,000 minus the net value of the discontinued ops:
    $5,000,000
    -3,000,000
    -1,100,000
    +500,000
    -600,000
    +200,000

    =net value of $1,000,000.

    $800,000 – $1,000,000 = -200,000. This loss essentially saves you $60,000 in tax (200,000*30%), so the net loss is $140,000 (-200,000 loss, plus the tax savings of 60,000).

    This is a discontinued operation, not a net operating loss. Discontinued ops are just a portion of the business that are sold off. In this case, the company might have income from operations of $1,000,000 for example, but then have a loss from disc. ops net of tax of $140,000. Overall, the company still has a net gain.

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    #764532
    jeff
    Keymaster

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

    #764533
    ABTX411
    Participant

    D – Deferred Gain, recognized over the life of the lease as an offset to rent expense.

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    #764534
    marqzho
    Participant

    D +1

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    #764535
    Claudia408
    Participant

    ABTX411 – where were you this whole time? You came out of nowhere!

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    #764536
    marqzho
    Participant

    Claudia408

    She comes out from hell 🙂 look at her exam day ….LOL

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    #764537
    Claudia408
    Participant

    can someone help with a summary of the cash flow classifications for government?

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    #764538
    ABTX411
    Participant

    You guys are funny! I accidentally stumbled upon this message board a month or so ago, but I didn't really feel like signing up at the time, so I wasn't able to post. After sitting for FAR, I felt compelled to vent about my experience in a forum where people actually care (or at least can relate), so I signed up. Now I have this page open on one of my monitors at work while I'm doing other things, so I periodically look over to see what's going on. If my explanations are helpful, please let me know, and I'll continue trying to help as much as I can. If not, feel free to tell me to shut up. 🙂 I have 10 years experience in an accounting-related field, so while I'm not an expert on pretty much anything, I might be able to lend some useful insight.

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    #764539
    Claudia408
    Participant

    ABTX411 – your explanations are great and i'm sure we all appreciate it! thanks for joining!!

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    #764540
    ABTX411
    Participant

    Claudia408 –

    Do you have a specific question regarding the classifications, or are you just looking for a general explanation? If you have any sample questions that are stumping you, it might help us figure out how to help a little better.

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