FAR Study Group Q2 2016 - Page 33

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  • #764151
    Spartans92
    Participant

    That sounds like a REG question claudia. But I don't see why you would do all the other steps. Don't we just simply use the FMV- CV and get the gain. since we are not given the selling price we just use the FMV. Not sure if that is the right reasoning. See what others have to say 🙂

    BEC- PASS

    #764152
    Claudia408
    Participant

    Spartans – it does sound like a Reg question doesn't it? Well what complicates the stupid question is the cash received (called boot), which is why you can't just take FMV- CV…

    BEC - 75 (3x)
    AUD - 78 (3x)
    REG - 67, 66, Aug 1
    FAR - 54, Sept 8

    #764153
    Nessie
    Participant

    Claudia,

    If one the company is exchanging land for an oil rig, then there is commercial substance and the fair value approach is used. Also, gains and losses for commercial substance transactions are always recognized.
    So the difference between the fair value and the carrying value of the asset given up is recognized.

    I think you were applying the lacking commercial substance formula.

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
    BEC?

    Becker self-study, Becker Final Review & NINJA MCQS

    #764154
    Spartans92
    Participant

    Haha. Commercial substance jesus totally don't recall… what are the criteria again?? I can't hear TIM's voice 🙁 And BOOT! Darn Reg and FAR overlapping?? Time to turn in for the night. Have a good night all!

    BEC- PASS

    #764155
    Nessie
    Participant

    Spartans, it is hard I know–to stop thinking like a taxman.

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
    BEC?

    Becker self-study, Becker Final Review & NINJA MCQS

    #764156
    mckan514w
    Participant

    Governmental accounting– I will refrain from my rant on this… but needless to say I think it confuses me so much because i just can not get a handle on the flow of things from journal entries. For example $20,000,000 was recorded for estimated revenues control. Actual revenues for the fiscal year amounted to $17,000,000. In closing the budgetary accounts at June 30: Revenues Control should be credited for $20,000,000

    In theory I “get this” you begin the period with
    DR: Estimated Revenue Controls 20
    CR: Appropriations (or other financial use account) 20

    I get that you need to close this out at the end of the ear but where / what is the corresponding Debit??? and then How do you record the actual revenue? (simply DR Cash / CR Revenue???)

    DR: XXX ????– would this be the appropriations????
    Estimated Revenue Controls 20

    Thanks!

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #764157
    marqzho
    Participant

    You close the budget by

    Dr. Appropriations 20
    Cr. Estimated Revenue Controls 20

    it doesn't matter what really happened in that budgetary year. Closing entries are the exact opposite entries when you set up the budget.

    REG 90
    FAR 95
    AUD 98
    BEC 84

    #764158
    marqzho
    Participant

    Cont'

    Let's put in some more info into your example:
    Let say we order $10 good in that year

    When issue the purchase order, we have :
    Dr. Encumbrance 10
    Cr. Reserve for encumbrance 10

    Let say we have $20 license revenue
    Dr. Cash 20
    Cr. Revenue 20

    Let say you receive the good, you need to reverse the encumbrance account:
    Dr. Reserve for encumbrance 10
    Cr. Encumbrance 10

    Turn out the good is for $11 instead of $10
    Dr. Expenditure 11
    Cr. Cash 11

    At the end of the year, you need to close the actual, you need to do this :
    Dr. Revenue 20
    Cr. Expenditure 11
    C. Fund Balance-unreserved 9

    This is a simple illustration, things will get messy if there is outstanding purchase order, or you want to keep track of the inventory, other fin sources, etc.

    REG 90
    FAR 95
    AUD 98
    BEC 84

    #764159
    mckan514w
    Participant

    wow THANKS! marqzho!!!! So essentially your fund balance will be the “catch-all” / plug??? similar to say the APIC account in equity?

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #764160
    marqzho
    Participant

    Claudia

    exchanged a piece of land that was being held for investment purposes for an oil rig that it will use in its drilling operations

    This is an exchange with commercial substance, you need to recognize ALL gains and losses.

    Dr. Oil Rig 200 (FMV given up 250 – cash rec'd 50 )
    Dr. Cash 50
    Cr. Land 230 (C.V)
    Cr. Gain 20

    REG 90
    FAR 95
    AUD 98
    BEC 84

    #764161
    marqzho
    Participant

    mckan514w

    Yes. Just like your saving account: How much you earned – How much you spent = How much you save / take out from the saving account 🙂

    REG 90
    FAR 95
    AUD 98
    BEC 84

    #764162
    mckan514w
    Participant

    AWESOME! Marqzho- there may be hope for me yet 🙂 THANKS!!!

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #764163
    Incoming91
    Participant

    Does anyone have a simple way of understanding deferred inflows and outflows?

    Thanks

    REG: 80
    FAR: 78 (x2)
    AUD: 6/10
    BEC: 7/20

    #764164
    Claudia408
    Participant

    can someone please summarize how to distinguish between deferred tax asset and deferred tax liability?

    BEC - 75 (3x)
    AUD - 78 (3x)
    REG - 67, 66, Aug 1
    FAR - 54, Sept 8

    #764165
    marqzho
    Participant

    Incoming91

    Think of them as prepaid expense / unearned revenue
    The simplest way 🙂

    REG 90
    FAR 95
    AUD 98
    BEC 84

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