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December 19, 2016 at 6:26 pm #1396517
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February 20, 2017 at 2:25 pm #1493359
GiniCParticipantThe way I think of the two WACSO methods is this –
One method: If there are only additions, not subtractions and I know some shares were there the whole year, I just list them – like the 50,000 in that example. Then when others are added, you add them with the fraction of the year that they WERE there – so the 8,000 shares added were there from April through December, nine months of the twelve so multiply by 9/12 and add the result. (my Intermediate instructor told us to count on our fingers, and it helps to make sure you count both ends of the period).
When there are adds and subtracts, it's better to use the other method.
– look at the shares you have at the beginning of the year and count the months until the first change (in that example, 3); that exact number of shares only existed for that fraction of the year (multiply by 3/12).
– When the first change happens, determine the new total number of shares and count months til the next change (in this example, 58,000 shares for 9 months, so multiply by 9/12).
– Keep doing that for each change until you have all 12 months covered.
– If you have a split or stock dividend, apply that to all periods before the date it took effect (like a 2:1 split, multiply all earlier periods by 2)
..then use the new (in this case doubled) number of shares as of the last change calculated and use THAT for the next addition/subtraction.
– I always check at the end to make sure my number of months applied adds up to 12.
– then add up the individual totals.Does that make sense?
February 20, 2017 at 2:41 pm #1493373
Sticky NickyParticipantwondering how heavy retail and dollar value FIFO is tested,,,i suck at those,,,i have actually seen one question ask about dollar value retail,,,like WTF?!?! lol no clue,,,consolidations eliminating entries also get me all mucked up,,,i have 2 days left of FT study and then I meet my maker.
February 20, 2017 at 2:53 pm #1493386
aatouralParticipant@Ginic – Now it makes more sense THANK YOU!
I think my big sticky note would be READ THE DAMN QUESTION SLOOOOOOOOWLY! ROFL I just read thru like I just want to know the answer beforehand. lol
@sticky nicky – I wish my exam would have all inventories and Govenrmental and ZERO bonds and SE!
BEC - PASSED
AUD - 8/29/16
FAR - TBS
REG - TBSFebruary 20, 2017 at 3:01 pm #1493392
Sticky NickyParticipantahaha,,,wishful thinking,,,im good at inventory except for those 2 methods,,,and i suck at gov't unless they are basic encumberance accounting and what funds should this go to type of questions,,bonds easy SE kind of have the hand of it
February 20, 2017 at 3:01 pm #1493394
mckan514wParticipantlol @aa- I also have THAT posted to my computer as well…
@sticky you can't rule it out showing up- especially SIMs…. this site helped me out with Dollar Value- I still suck at retail….
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2February 20, 2017 at 3:18 pm #1493410
GiniCParticipant@cdn –
Becker has a comprehensive table of the differences between GAAP and IFRS at the end of chapter 10.
February 20, 2017 at 4:31 pm #1493464
aatouralParticipant@sticky nicky – I welcome any pointers on bonds you might have because my lowest scores have been on that chapter.
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REG - TBSFebruary 20, 2017 at 4:33 pm #1493466
waffle_houseParticipantWhich parts are you having trouble with?
February 20, 2017 at 4:34 pm #1493469
waffle_houseParticipantI took my exam Feb 13th, I didn't see too many IFRS questions. There was this one SIM though…wasn't hard.
February 20, 2017 at 4:43 pm #1493476
Sticky NickyParticipantaa…what u wanna know?
February 20, 2017 at 4:43 pm #1493479
AnthonyParticipantJournal entries, journal entries, journal entries, journal entries did I mention journal entries?
Bond are a cakewalk when you know the journal entries for it. I was drooling every time I saw a bond question on my exam last week.
February 20, 2017 at 4:50 pm #1493487
GiniCParticipantFebruary 20, 2017 at 5:04 pm #1493496
aatouralParticipantFor some reason the journal entries do not seem to be doing the trick on me. Basically all bonds related questions.
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AUD - 8/29/16
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REG - TBSFebruary 20, 2017 at 5:27 pm #1493526
Sticky NickyParticipantwell for MCQs most of them are gunna be on the issuers side so the easiest way is to record it like this:
DR Cash (for amount received or if it says at 102 or 98 you mulitiple the face value by this percentage 1.02 or .98)
DR Discount (Plug)
CR B/P face amount
CR Premium (Plug)<===or instead of a discountthe premium or discount is basically the difference between the cash you received and the face value of the bond (B/P) if the effective interest rate is higher than the stated rate you have a discount because you want to earn more than what they are offering so they better give it to you cheaper,,,if the effective rate is lower than the stated rate you have a premium because you are getting a higher interest than what the company actually wants you to make on it so they sell it to you for more.
BIC is always a debit to reduce the carrying amount of the bonds and then it gets amortized out on a SL basis over the term of the bond which will actually increase interest expense but reduce the cash you have to pay out at the time…almost like a prepaid interest expense.
When you pay interest you are crediting cash for the amount you have to give them (face value x stated rate) but your interest expense is the carrying value x the effective rate…the difference is your amortization
it's always easy to start w BP which is always give,,its the face value,,,then debit the cash for what they get,,,and use the diff as your plug for disc/premium.
February 20, 2017 at 6:38 pm #1493613
tm535ParticipantHi All,
This is my first post. I'm scheduled to take FAR on the 24th. It's my first test. I'm very nervous. I've used the Becker Review course. I went to the live review course and have studied for about a month and a 1/2. I would say I've studied about about 30-40 hours a week. I just took my first practice test and scored a high 50%. I accidentally skipped a sim and the mcs I got wrong were questions where I was debating between two answers and just picked the wrong one. I'm a horrible test taker and don't know how to keep my anxiety under control. I've decided to still take the exam regardless of what the practice tests indicate. My focus this week is reviewing flash cards and going through Becker's final review book. Any advice?
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