FAR Study Group Q1 2017 - Page 80

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  • #1477606
    Sticky Nicky
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    aatoural: Its like this…take the number of the warrants and multiply it by the warrant market price (2000 x $10) which is $20k if you look there is a discount of $50 $500-450 however this is a distorted discount you need to further increase the discount by the value of the warrants 20k….50+20=70…the real carrying value of the bonds is $430 here are the JE for this problem also:

    Cash 450
    Discount 70 (plug)
    B/P 500
    APIC-warrants 20

    #1477614
    Anthony
    Participant

    @aatoural

    The best way to attack and sort of bond problem is with journal entries.

    Cash..450k
    Discount..???
    …….Warrant…20k
    …….B/P…….500k

    Solve to discount… = 70k
    Warrant = Detachable*market price
    (2k*$10)

    #1477617
    Sticky Nicky
    Participant

    journal entries truly are the key to this section…once you know the entries it gets so much easier to find what they are asking you for.

    #1477618
    ng3926a
    Participant

    @aatoural

    I think if you write out the JE it will help

    DR Cash for $450,000

    DR Discount for $70,000 <—- PLUG

    CR Debentures/Bonds for $500,000

    CR PIC- Warrants for $20,000

    If we know the FV of the warrants, we use that was PIC. Really what they're saying is that the purchasers paid $450,000 – nothing more and nothing less, but really what did they get in total? They got debentures worth $500,000 and Warrants worth $20,000. So if they paid 450,000 for something that is really worth $520,000. What's the discount they received? $70,000.

    edit// hahah I guess we're all in agreement about J/E…

    #1477623
    demarcon
    Participant

    @Nathalia you should use the actual and defer a gain, but that would only be in a hard question where they try to trick you with a corridor approach question.



    @aatoural
    you have to record detachable stock warrants at their FV. You would record the bonds as BP at their face amount and you can usually just plug the discount.

    dr. Cash 450,000
    dr. Discount 70,000 (plug)
    cr. Bonds Payable $500,000 (face)
    cr. APIC – Stock Warrants $20,000 ($10 FV x 2000 warrants)

    #1477641
    aatoural
    Participant

    OMG! Thanks everyone!

    I really need to get that JE learned. I think what throws me off is the APIC part of it. I've always had trouble with that concept

    BEC - PASSED
    AUD - 8/29/16
    FAR - TBS
    REG - TBS

    #1477668
    ng3926a
    Participant

    I noticed we all credited a different item for warrants.. so which one is right? whats the difference between pic and apic?

    #1477674
    demarcon
    Participant

    I'm pretty sure PIC is the right one. APIC is the additional amount paid over par. PIC is the total investment in stock and APIC.

    #1477675
    Sticky Nicky
    Participant

    its APIC-Stock Warrants,,,APIC-Warrants same thing,,,no such thing as PIC

    #1477680
    Sticky Nicky
    Participant

    no its additional paid in capital,,,where in a balance sheet do you report PIC? never even heard of that before in my studies…i think the two are interchangable

    #1477729
    YBD215
    Participant

    Kent Co., a division of National Realty, Inc., maintains escrow accounts and pays real estate taxes for National's mortgage customers. Escrow funds are kept in interest-bearing accounts. Interest, less a 10% service fee, is credited to the mortgagee's account and used to reduce future escrow payments. Additional information follows:

    Escrow accounts liability, January 1, 20X1 $ 700,000
    Escrow payments received during 20X1 1,580,000
    Real estate taxes paid during 20X1 1,720,000
    Interest on escrow funds during 20X1 50,000
    What amount should Kent report as escrow accounts liability in its December 31, 20X1, balance sheet?

    A. $510,000

    B. $515,000

    C. $605,000 Correct

    D. $610,000

    Explanation:Use the basic accounting equation:

    Beginning balance + Additions – Deductions = Ending balance

    Escrow accounts liability on January 1, 20X1 $ 700,000
    Add: Escrow payments received in 20X1 1,580,000
    Net interest credited ($50,000 – 10% of $50,000) 45,000
    ———-
    Subtotal $2,325,000
    Less: Real estate taxes paid in 20X1 1,720,000
    ———-
    Escrow accounts liability on December 31, 20X1 $ 605,000
    ==========

    I thought that since the interesrt was used to reduce future payment, it would be deduction from the liability. Can someone explain my stupidity. What am I missing in the details?

    #1477737
    waffle_house
    Participant

    Is GAAP FIFO lower of cost or NRV?

    #1477740
    waffle_house
    Participant

    I took my exam today. I think I am screwed. The first testlet was super easy and I knew I was gonna get harder the second testlet but damn it was tough and that was when I got scared. I'm not even sure how to rate the third testlet, it was definitely harder than my first testlet but not as wordy as the second testlet.

    The SIMS weren't too bad (surprisingly). I think I made a lot of little mistakes. Guess we will see Feb 23th.

    Please let this be my last exam.

    #1477792
    Holly
    Participant

    @YBD215 I totally see what you're saying, but when I read it I thought of it as the same as the $1,580,000 – payment received but just not out of our pocket.



    @waffle_house
    GAAP FIFO is lower of cost and NRV but this has been a pain in our sides

    BEC - 79
    REG - 85
    AUD - 5/27/16

    #1477810
    mckan514w
    Participant

    @mtaylo24- spent last week doing nothing but note review and started Ninja yesterday and OMG it is like a breath of fresh air from Gleim- even to the point I am beginning to wonder if I messed up rescheduling my test now….

    I agree with @sticky JE's are KEY to FAR…

    @Wafflehouse- actually sounds like you did pretty good! deep breaths no use obsessing about it until scores come out you never know. Good luck fingers crossed for you!

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

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