FAR Study Group Q1 2017 - Page 67

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  • #1454222
    Holly
    Participant

    @NY who knows??? Becker did say that on the actual test it will not fall into an unknown category

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    #1454223
    nardo
    Participant

    @nyaccountingstudent It depends on the company's fiscal policy. In terms of the CPA exam, I will assume they'll disclose said policy if they give us one in the 20-25 range.

    #1454319
    Sticky Nicky
    Participant

    I guess its time to render ninja MCQs useless:

    A departure from the cost basis is required when the utility of goods is no longer as great as cost; for inventory, the loss should be recognized in the period in which the decline takes place. Inventory measured using any method other than LIFO or the retail inventory method (e.g., FIFO or average cost) is measured at the lower of cost and net realizable value (NRV), which is defined to be the estimated selling price in the ordinary course of business, less reasonably predictable costs of completion, disposal, and transportation. If the NRV of inventory is lower than its cost, the difference is recognized as a loss in earnings in the period in which it occurs.

    In this case, market value will be the replacement cost unless replacement cost exceeds net realizable value (NRV) (estimated selling price less costs of completion and disposal), in which case market will be net realizable value (the ceiling); OR replacement cost is less than net realizable value reduced by a normal profit margin (the floor), in which case market will be the floor.

    NRV (ceiling) $125,000 – $10,500 = $114,500
    Replacement cost = $ 75,000
    NRV – Normal profit (floor) $114,500 – (30% × $125,000) = $ 77,000

    Garcel should report inventory at $77,000, the lower of cost or market. (Note: market cannot be less than the floor value of $77,000.)

    Garcel, Inc. held unfinished inventory at a cost of $85,000 with a sales value of $125,000. The inventory will cost $10,500 to complete. The normal profit margin is 30% of sales. The replacement cost of the inventory was $75,000. What amount should Garcel report as inventory on balance sheet?

    A.
    $114,500

    Incorrect B.
    $85,000

    C.
    $77,000

    D.
    $75,000

    #1454334
    Holly
    Participant

    @Sticky Nicky I feel like I'm about to ask a stupid question, but here it goes. What don't like you like about that question?

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    #1454346
    GiniC
    Participant

    @HRSexton – I was wondering the same thing – the whole explanation proves that C is the correct answer.

    How are you doing on your study schedule? You should have blown past me by now – I was sick this week (ER, doctor follow-ups, lots of fun) so I'm now a full week behind my plan. Considering a vacation week to catch up!

    #1454359
    Holly
    Participant

    @ginic I am in the middle of chapter 8. Still working on my three week review. I hate to hear that about you being sick! Doesn't it seem like so much happens while trying to study. That's kind of why I'm trying to be finished by summer – less chance of life getting in the way.

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    #1454371
    mtaylo24
    Participant

    @StickyNicky lol



    @hrsexton
    when do you plan on turning on Ninja MCQ? I'm still debating whether I should even bother using it. The Gleim TB is challenging enough, but I'm not sure if it is efficient for me to stay the course. I'm only half way through my second spin of it.

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    #1454376
    aatoural
    Participant

    @Namstut – Is so so. I am finishing up chapter 4 today (hopefully)). But I have not had much time for my notes which has me worried. What about you?

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    #1454380
    Holly
    Participant

    @mtaylo24 I am going to use NINJA during my review only; that's what I did with auditing. It seemed to work well for me because I would go through Becker and do everything, then I reviewed with NINJA MCQ for a whole new set of questions and sims. When I got something wrong, I'd look up the topic in Becker.

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    #1454389
    GiniC
    Participant

    My original plan was six months for all four exams, but I hit a snag last fall and delayed FAR. I can't run through the material that fast while working and keeping up with the “sandwich generation” demands. I realistically only get through a chapter a week unless I take extra time out of work.

    #1454434
    Sticky Nicky
    Participant

    hrsexton and gini… here is the question.. i actually pasted it backwards w the explanation first…what i dont like about the question is the answer:

    Garcel, Inc. held unfinished inventory at a cost of $85,000 with a sales value of $125,000. The inventory will cost $10,500 to complete. The normal profit margin is 30% of sales. The replacement cost of the inventory was $75,000. What amount should Garcel report as inventory on balance sheet?

    A.
    $114,500

    Incorrect B.
    $85,000

    C.
    $77,000

    D.
    $75,000

    Nowhere in the question does it say that they use LIFO or Retail method, therefore it's LCNRV:
    cost=$85000
    NRV=$114500 ($125000-10500)

    therefore the correct answer is 85K, which i correctly picked but was marked incorrect. Am I wrong? If it stated that they used GAAP and LIFO or Retail Method then the correct answer would be C under the lower of cost or market method.

    #1454439
    Holly
    Participant

    @Sticky Nicky I used Lower of Cost or Market because it didn't explicitly say IFRS.

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    #1454443
    aatoural
    Participant

    @Ginic – seems like you study kinda my same pace.but I have been having to do 2 chapters a weeks and it seems that is taking a toll on me. Plus I have no time for my notes which they do help me a lot. Any advise?

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    #1454502
    mtaylo24
    Participant

    @Hrsexton, Did you just hit the MCQ link or go by category? I usually go by category until I get everything right (review phase), then I hit the MCQ link. Not sure if I have time for all of that this go-round.

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    #1454508
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    If the question does not explicitly state the use of LIFO or retail method then use “lower of cost or net realizable value.” The new inventory rules are applicable to Q1 2017

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