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February 2, 2017 at 7:17 am #1452317
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ParticipantCan someone help me out on the definitions for “committed”, “Assigned” and “restricted”- if the encumbrances were outstanding at year end- meaning they had been recorded as an encumbrance right?? why wouldn't they go into a restricted fund balance (answer A) account at year end- the explanation given with the MCQ makes no sense to me… thanks!!!
Encumbrances outstanding at year end in a state’s general fund should be reported in a
A. Restricted fund balance classification.
B. Liability in the general fund.
C. Liability in the general long-term debt account group.
D. Fund balance account in the general fund.Correct Answer D- Outstanding encumbered amounts at year end are reclassified from unassigned fund balance to committed or assigned fund balance (as appropriate). If the constraint on the use of resources was imposed by the government’s highest decision maker, the amounts are reclassified as fund balance — committed. Thus, encumbrances are never reported in the body of the statements. However, significant encumbrances are disclosed in the notes.
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2February 2, 2017 at 7:26 am #1452320Holly
Participant@ mckan514w Not there yet but I have a question for you. Are encumbrances just expenses? Aren't restricted funds restricted based on laws, etc?
BEC - 79
REG - 85
AUD - 5/27/16February 2, 2017 at 7:32 am #1452323Holly
ParticipantFebruary 2, 2017 at 7:52 am #1452327mckan514w
Participantoh @hrsexton you are going to have fun with GOVT.!!! ha ha ha… No encumbrances is essentially a “reserve” account holding money for when expenses (which are called expenditures) are recognized… you are right on “restricted”- but still the question remains- why is the correct answer “fund balance account” when the balance needs to be assigned or committed…
IMO it is just a really poorly worded question- / answer / explanation- but am hoping that someone can help explain where they actually would go- so for example if your choices had been
A. Fund Balance restricted
B. Fund Balance Committed
C. Fund Balance Assigned
D Fund Balance Unassignedand they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2February 2, 2017 at 8:18 am #1452330waffle_house
ParticipantEncumbrances aren't expenses. When a purchase order is placed, you recorded an encumbrance.
DR: Encumbrance
CR: Budgetary ControlFebruary 2, 2017 at 8:28 am #1452333aatoural
Participant@mckan – I might be able to help a bit with the fund balance. As per GASB 54, the fund balance presentation was broken down in tiers (from most restrictive to least): Undependable, Restricted, committed, unrestricted, assigned and unsigned. Encumbrances are part of assigned fund balance (at least that is the bucket that we assigned it to in my job).
Non spendable is that part of your fund balance that is reserved for a specific purpose or legally or contractually required to be maintained intact. Meaning items not expected to be converted into cash. For example inventory.
Restricted fund balance is targeted towards a specific purpose and cannot be used for anything other than that purpose. Is more based on a federal law or legislation. For example endangered lands. Usually government accounts for these kind of items as per law and are restricted to that specific use.
Committed is kind of similar to restricted, but look at it as more local law or legislation, like a county ordinance. For example hurricane shelters are accounted for by local government as part of committed because it is to be used for that purpose. However, if there is a change of law it can be used for other specified purpose. More flexible.
Assigned is your baby where you have your encumbrances, you also have subsequent years carryover which are more budgetary in nature. This bucket is sometimes more narrow for the General Fund but I don't think they will be so specific on this.
Finally you got unassigned, which is whatever remains of fund balance you have after allocating the prior buckets accordingly.
Soo, going back to the question the only option was as part of fund Balance in GF. And like I say in my job for GF encumbrances are part of assigned fund balance of the General Fund.
Hope it helps. But here is GASB 54 which explains it very well.
https://gasb.org/jsp/GASB/Document_C/GASBDocumentPage?cid=1176159972156&acceptedDisclaimer=true
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REG - TBSFebruary 2, 2017 at 8:30 am #1452336aatoural
ParticipantLike waffle said encumbrances are NOT expenses.
BEC - PASSED
AUD - 8/29/16
FAR - TBS
REG - TBSFebruary 2, 2017 at 8:44 am #1452339mckan514w
ParticipantWOW awesome aa!! that helps tremendously!!! Thank you so much. I do not know why Govt. confuses me so badly- the ironic thing is on my last score report I scored “stronger” in it- which means I must have guessed very lucky because man I get confused. 🙂
Also for anyone else out there who is having trouble with Govt. General Fund Journal Entries- I found this training manual for a school district somewhere that walks you through the entries…
https://www.k12.wa.us/safs/INS/ACC/0405/07.pdf
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2February 2, 2017 at 8:55 am #1452350aatoural
ParticipantYou are welcome mckan. Governmental can be crazy when you start with it but then is just the same thing,the only difference is that the budget is the law and entities have to abide by it.
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AUD - 8/29/16
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REG - TBSFebruary 2, 2017 at 10:04 am #1452374mtaylo24
ParticipantTime to see how much I forgot with Business combos. Should be fun!
AUD - 1st - 60 (12/12), 61 (2/13), 61 (8/13), 78! (11/15)
REG - 55 (2/16) 69 (5/16) Retake(8/16)
BEC - 71(5/16) Retake (9/16)
FAR - (8/16)February 2, 2017 at 10:32 am #1452386Holly
ParticipantBecker people –
Chapter 6, Simulation , Task 4, d
Why is Pension Benefit Liability – Noncurrent wrong for the credit to Service Cost?
BEC - 79
REG - 85
AUD - 5/27/16February 2, 2017 at 10:32 am #1452387Holly
ParticipantIt's Simulation 2
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REG - 85
AUD - 5/27/16February 2, 2017 at 11:34 am #1452422mckan514w
ParticipantPHEW! made it through all of the gleim material- average is 71.5 now comes the hard work of review, bring the average up, and keep it all in my effing brain… but for now I will take a small victory in the fact I finished the material without destroying my laptop :-).
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2February 2, 2017 at 11:39 am #1452426Holly
ParticipantWhen do you test mckan?
BEC - 79
REG - 85
AUD - 5/27/16February 2, 2017 at 11:46 am #1452437mckan514w
Participant24th… would have loved to have pushed it back to March extension but nothing is available…
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
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