FAR Study Group Q1 2017 - Page 54

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  • #1449768
    aatoural
    Participant

    ROFL! Indeed you did.

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    AUD - 8/29/16
    FAR - TBS
    REG - TBS

    #1449786
    GiniC
    Participant

    @aatoural:

    Basically, you run through the income statement:

    Sales………………..575,000
    CoGS………………..(240,000)
    ……………………________
    Gross Profit………….335,000
    Less Operating Expenses
    ..Admin…..70,000
    ..Commis….50,000
    ..Freight…15,000
    ..Bad Debt..15,000
    ……………………________
    …………………..(150,000)
    Other Income/Expenses
    Loss equip…(10,000)
    Int rev…….25,000
    Loss LT debt (20,000)
    ……………………________
    …………………….(5,000)
    …………——————–
    Income B4 Inc Tx……..180,000
    Inc Tax Exp………….(54,000)
    ……………………________
    Net Income from Ops…..126,000

    If you had a (wonderful) Dragon-lady for Intermediate 1, you can do this in your sleep, so I didn't have to write it out. My only hesitation came in remembering there are no more “extraordinary” items, so only discontinued operations and OCI come after Net Income now.

    Does that help?

    #1449788
    aatoural
    Participant

    @Ginic – this helps a lot. Becker's way was something else.

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    REG - TBS

    #1449794
    GiniC
    Participant

    Now I need help – I'm horribly tangled in the OCI entries for pensions. Becker's lecture seems to say things are going “into” and “out of” OCI with no consistency that I can see with the entries being debits vs. credits. I know I'm tying myself in knots over a detail, but if it confuses me on exam day I'll blow the sim!

    Anybody “get” this part of pensions?

    #1449818
    Holly
    Participant

    @ginic I don't know if I “get” anything yet!!! Do you have something in particular that is confusing?

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    #1449857
    AR
    Participant

    Hi,

    I am practicing Ninja FAR sims. While my JEs are correct, they are marked wrong for the order I list the account. For example:

    Equipment DR 220000
    Land CR 105000
    Cash CR 30000
    Gain on disposal of land CR 85000

    This is marked as being partially wrong. Whereas,

    Equipment DR 220000
    Land CR 105000
    Gain on disposal of land CR 85000
    Cash CR 30000

    receives full credit.

    Does anybody know if the sequence affects the actual exam scoring? If so, does anyone have some suggestion about how to nail the sequence of JEs?

    Thank you in advance.

    #1449866
    mckan514w
    Participant

    GiniC not sure I “get it” completely- pensions are the devil for me- but essentially the way I understand it OCI is holding your gains and losses until you recognize them… so for instance lets say the plan is amended which increases your Obligation- you will amortize this and expense it over a number of years… in the mean time you need to recognize the fact that the plan has been amended and the Liability / obligation has been increased so you will Debit your OCI / Credit your pension liability. Then when you recognize the amortized portion each year you will Debit your pension expense and credit your OCI- so essentially moving it out of OCI into expenses…

    and they ask me why I drink...

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    AUD- 9/2

    #1449867
    mckan514w
    Participant

    @AR- they will typically tell you in the SIM instructions how / if they want the journal entries a particular way- for instance it could say “no particular order required” or “keep all debits together” or “highest amounts to lowest”

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #1449879
    GiniC
    Participant

    @HRSexton – I think McKan got me to see it – Some things go into OCI as a debit (expenses being “parked” there) so they come out as a credit; while other things go in as a credit (income being “parked”) so they have to come out as a debit. Sounds like it will be horrible to keep straight!

    #1449885
    GiniC
    Participant

    @HRSexton – a small amount of material changed as of January 1 – I had to insert about 4 new pages into my Becker book and mark up a paragraph. Becker tries hard to prepare us for the actual exam experience. I haven't looked at the new online materials, but I suspect they added more sims and backed off on the MCQs.

    I haven't been able to get to the SIMs for the last couple of chapters, so I'm trying not to freak, and will use the SIMS as a big part of my final review week. Hoping that's enough…

    #1449890
    T Rev
    Participant

    For the other 3 exams, I hit all sections at once when working MCQ’s. I am curious if it would help me, or possible hurt me, to study Governmental and Not-for-Profit sections after getting the other FAR material mastered? My thinking is that I should know the structures of one side well enough to have a baseline for determining what is the same and what differs.

    Thanks

    #1449894
    AR
    Participant

    @mckan514 Thank you. That sure helps!

    #1449920
    cdn
    Participant

    Can someone please help me understand this question?
    I thought when we have discount on bonds we debit it on initial purchase and credit later on every year – am I wrong? Thanks

    On July 1, Year 1, Pell Co. purchased Green Corp. 10-year, 8% bonds with a face amount of $500,000 for $420,000. The bonds mature on June 30, Year 9, and pay interest semiannually on June 30 and December 31. Using the interest method, Pell recorded bond discount amortization of $1,800 for the six months ended December 31, Year 1. From this long-term investment, Pell should report Year 1 revenue of:

    A.$16,800.

    B. $18,200.

    C.$20,000.

    D.$21,800.

    You answered B. The correct answer is D.

    If bonds are purchased at a discount, then the discount is immediately recorded as a credit in the acquiring corporation’s books. As the discount is amortized, it is thus debited, to decrease it. When cash is received as interest, the additional debit to amortize the discount adds to the debit to cash to increase the total credit to recognized revenue.

    Therefore, the total revenue for the year will be the cash received as interest over the semiannual period, $500,000 (face amount) × 0.08 (8%) × 6/12, or $20,000, plus the $1,800 discount amortized, for a total revenue for the year of $21,800.

    #1449951
    GiniC
    Participant

    @cdn – my books don't say that the investor records the discount as a credit upon purchase – but amortization of discount by the INVESTOR increases the interest revenue. You seem to be thinking of what the ISSUER records

    Basically, the investor records the bond at the purchase price (discounted value). Each interest payment date, they receive the cash interest payment (debit cash) and record amortization of the bond discount (debit Investment in Bonds), so the balancing credit to Bond Interest Revenue is the sum of the cash interest received and the amortization of the discount. I checked both my Becker review materials and my Wiley text from Intermediate Accounting.

    #1449956
    cdn
    Participant

    Thanks @ginic- you are right I thought about Issuer side. One small misconception and question wrong, have to read more carefully

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