FAR Study Group Q1 2017 - Page 14

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  • #1423802
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    If you wrote up the land to fair value in the debt restructure by 25K why wouldn't you include it in the income statement?

    #1423818
    j3cpa
    Participant

    I didn't think land is subject to impairment or that we should recognize gain or loss on revaluation?

    Study Material:
    GLEIM
    BEC - FEB/2012
    AUD - FEB/2012
    FAR - JULY/2012
    REG - JULY/2012

    #1423827
    Stilgoin
    Participant

    DR Note Payable 150,000
    CR Land 75,000
    CR Gain on Disposition of Land 25000
    CR Gain on Restructure 50,000

    ???

    B | 62, 78
    A | 73, 67, 79
    R | 82
    F | 59, 59, Waiting

    Ethics | 93

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
    ~Winston Churchill

    β€œIn a world full of critics, be an encourager."

    #1423835
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @Stilgoin. I think that's correct. I think the wording in the problem is a little ambiguous



    @j3cpa
    . I believe land is subject to impairment. You would only recognize a loss on revaluation under U.S. GAAP

    #1423847
    j3cpa
    Participant

    @bondvilliAn

    Yes u are right. Land is subject to impairment if the entity thinks there are regulations or other factors that might affect its FV.

    Thanks.

    How about this:

    When land is revalued:

    Land 25,000
    Revaluation surplus 25,000

    Note payable 150,000
    Land 100,000
    Gain 50,000

    Study Material:
    GLEIM
    BEC - FEB/2012
    AUD - FEB/2012
    FAR - JULY/2012
    REG - JULY/2012

    #1423926
    Stilgoin
    Participant

    Revaluation Surplus is only allowed for IFRS. That is an OCI account and does not apply here. It is to recover impairment, but that is not allowed in US GAAP. To revalue the land to FV, it might be:

    DR Land 25,000
    CR Gain on transfer of asset 25,000

    And then

    DR Note Payable 150,000
    CR Land 100,000
    CR Gain on Restructure 50,000

    But I feel combining them would present the situation better for interpretation.

    DR Note Payable 150,000
    CR Land 75,000
    CR Gain on Disposition of Land 25000
    CR Gain on Restructure 50,000

    B | 62, 78
    A | 73, 67, 79
    R | 82
    F | 59, 59, Waiting

    Ethics | 93

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
    ~Winston Churchill

    β€œIn a world full of critics, be an encourager."

    #1423932
    j3cpa
    Participant

    @stillgoin

    U make me so hopeless bro.

    How would an entity revalue land on GAAP? Ignore the current issues. If I think land value increased by 25k. How would I book that? If land is subject to the periodic revaluation…?

    Study Material:
    GLEIM
    BEC - FEB/2012
    AUD - FEB/2012
    FAR - JULY/2012
    REG - JULY/2012

    #1423935
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    GAAP does not allow you to write up the value of your assets unless they are trading securities or receivables in a foreign currency (that has appreciated in value). The land would remain at its carrying value even if its fair value has increased.

    #1423938
    mckan514w
    Participant

    I would say that you have to recognize an impairment loss on the land and that netted together with the gain would give you a Net Gain of 50….

    NP 150
    Impairment loss Land 25
    Land 100
    Gain on Debt Restructure 75

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #1423946
    j3cpa
    Participant

    Thanks bondvillian. The more I read this post the more unprepared I feel.

    I don't think land is impaired here. The FV exceeds carrying value. $10 land with carry value of $5 land. If anything it's a gain?

    Study Material:
    GLEIM
    BEC - FEB/2012
    AUD - FEB/2012
    FAR - JULY/2012
    REG - JULY/2012

    #1423968
    Stilgoin
    Participant

    https://books.google.com/books?id=uV3KCQAAQBAJ&pg=PA447&dq=If+a+noncash+asset+is+given,+a+separate+gain+or+loss+is+recorded+to+revalue+the+noncash+asset+to+fair+value+(FV)+as+the+basis&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj8jIX-26vRAhWDZiYKHSPwDRAQ6AEIKTAC#v=onepage&q=If%20a%20noncash%20asset%20is%20given%2C%20a%20separate%20gain%20or%20loss%20is%20recorded%20to%20revalue%20the%20noncash%20asset%20to%20fair%20value%20(FV)%20as%20the%20basis&f=false

    “If a noncash asset is given, a separate gain or loss is recorded to revalue the noncash asset to fair value (FV) as the basis”

    B | 62, 78
    A | 73, 67, 79
    R | 82
    F | 59, 59, Waiting

    Ethics | 93

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
    ~Winston Churchill

    β€œIn a world full of critics, be an encourager."

    #1424016
    mckan514w
    Participant

    Thanks for posting @stillgoing! almost right ha ha ha πŸ™‚

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #1424793
    mtaylo24
    Participant

    How is everybody progressing this week? Work has ruined all of my momentum from the holidays, but I hope to get back in the grove over the weekend. I have studied Deferred Taxes/AP over the past few days and will probably move onto another unit later today.

    AUD - 1st - 60 (12/12), 61 (2/13), 61 (8/13), 78! (11/15)
    REG - 55 (2/16) 69 (5/16) Retake(8/16)
    BEC - 71(5/16) Retake (9/16)
    FAR - (8/16)

    #1424798
    mckan514w
    Participant

    Progress is slooooow Mtaylo! I got “killed” by the holidays as well and have had a hard time getting back into it- but have slowly gained momentum– when are you re-sitting?

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #1424807
    mtaylo24
    Participant

    McKan – I'm thinking either mid to late Feb. I am kind of superstitious about the extended window. IDK haven't even re-applied for a NTs yet. I have to fit in BEC also πŸ™

    AUD - 1st - 60 (12/12), 61 (2/13), 61 (8/13), 78! (11/15)
    REG - 55 (2/16) 69 (5/16) Retake(8/16)
    BEC - 71(5/16) Retake (9/16)
    FAR - (8/16)

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