FAR Study Group July August 2017 - Page 11

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  • #1573238
    CoachEmUp
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    @jonm For your second question on Rev Recog., think of it no different than making a sale on account. The travel they are going to get in exchange is “on account” and they already provided their end of the deal. They should recognize revenue in that period.

    #1573253
    jonm857
    Participant

    @coachemup Thanks! Makes sense.

    B - 81
    A - 87
    R - 73
    F - July 5th

    #1573337
    taxfreak
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    Cole Co. began constructing a building for its own use in January 20X4. During 20X4, Cole incurred interest of $50,000 on specific construction debt and $20,000 on other borrowings. Interest computed on the weighted-average amount of accumulated expenditures for the building during 20X4 was $40,000.

    What amount of interest cost should Cole capitalize?
    A) 20,000
    B) 40,000
    C) 50,000
    D) 70,000

    answer is B) 40,000.

    I know that capitalized interest is the lesser of avoidable interest and actual interest incurred, which is 50,000+20,000=70,000. Shouldn't the avoidable interest be interest on the WAE + the interest on the construction note itself (40,000 + 50,000=90,0000) and the lesser of the two is 70,000??

    #1573358
    CoachEmUp
    Participant

    @tax I think it's just bad wording on their part. Is this a Becker question? I have Wiley and they seemed a little better on this topic (actually covered it today). I think Becker meant avoidable interest was $40,000. Interest rate using the weighted average method gives you a rate, not a cost. So my guess is they were trying to get fancy and say interest rate X AAE was $40,000.

    My sincere hope is that the CPA test has very clear questions. There are plenty on Wiley that I think to myself in no way would it be fair for the CPA test to word it this way (too convoluted).

    #1573361
    Wannafree
    Participant

    @TaxFreak,
    The amount of interest cost which should be capitalized during building construction is the lower of avoidable interest or actual interest. Avoidable interest equals the interest computed on the weighted-average amount of accumulated expenditures on the building ($40,000). Since actual interest is $70,000 ($50,000 + $20,000), the amount capitalized should be $40,000.

    #1573367
    abig
    Participant

    Has anyone done the last SIM for Module F2 in far? I dont see where the solution info is coming from

    #1573379
    Wannafree
    Participant

    @TaxFreak is it a Becker's question ?

    #1573531
    CoachEmUp
    Participant

    Anyone understand this one? There was a 15 minute lesson specifically stating over and over that gain/loss on exchange w commercial substance is FV of new asset – BV of old asset. Then these:

    On December 31, 2005, Vey Co. traded equipment with an original cost of $100,000 and accumulated depreciation of $40,000 for productive equipment with a fair value of $60,000.

    In addition, Vey received $30,000 cash in connection with this exchange. There is commercial substance to the exchange.

    What should be Vey's carrying amount for the equipment received at December 31, 2005?

    My Answer $30,000
    $40,000
    Their Answer $60,000
    $80,000

    You Answered Incorrectly.
    This is the amount recorded if the implied gain were not recognized. However, this exchange has commercial substance. Therefore, the implied gain is recognized. When exchanges exhibit commercial substance, the asset acquired is valued at fair value.

    On January 1, Feld traded a delivery truck and paid $10,000 cash for a tow truck owned by Baker. The delivery truck had an original cost of $140,000, accumulated depreciation of $80,000, and an estimated fair value of $90,000. Feld estimated the fair value of Baker's tow truck to be $100,000. The transaction had commercial substance. What amount of gain should be recognized by Feld?
    $0
    $3,000
    $10,000
    My Answer $30,000
    WHY IS $40,000 NOT THE ANSWER HERE? WASN'T EVEN AN OPTION.

    You Answered Correctly!
    The book value of the delivery truck is $60,000 ($140,000 − $80,000). Its fair value is $90,000. A gain of $30,000 is therefore implied. Cash was paid and the exchange had commercial substance. Therefore, the gain is fully recognized. If the exchange lacked commercial substance, no gain would be recognized.

    #1573537
    CoachEmUp
    Participant

    NEVERMIND!!! I'm going crazy. The gain or loss recorded is for the Outgoing Asset and FV-BV.

    False alarm! Only 8:30 but maybe I need more sleep!

    #1573583
    QueenCPA
    Participant

    FAR FAR FAR!

    Took a break from another71 and the CPA Exams after taking my Audit in April.

    Will be back on the grind soon!

    #1573616
    taxfreak
    Participant

    @wannafree @coachemup

    This was actually a Wiley problem. My main study source is Becker and I am using Wiley as a supplemental source, but the way becker taught this is different…? One of the sims actually said avoidable interest = interest on the construction note itself + interest on the other loans using WAE. Therefore, it should be 50,000 + 40,000 = 90,000. The lesser of 90,000 and 70,000 = 70,000

    #1573642
    Wannafree
    Participant

    @TaxFreak , let me try again.
    Say you have $100,000 expenditure total and interest on this specific loan is $10000 . 10% rate and total interest is 10k on 100k ,no other loan .
    So Weightage Average expenditure = (0 + 100K)/2 = 50k
    So interest would be 5K , so far so good.

    Now you can see actual interest is 10K and avoidable interest is 5K which is less than Actual interest.
    Now add general loan and use same logic .
    In the problem they have given total interest weightage interest as 40K ,so you can relate this 40K as 5k as avoidable interest. 50+20 K = 70K as actual interest like 10k of my example.
    Simple rule to keep in mind : In simplest case where no general loan is taken ,
    avoidable interest = Actual / 2 ( simplest of the case ).
    I hope I am making sense.

    #1573723
    BBHYX
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    Hey guys, does anyone have a good condensed list of IFRS vs GAAP differences or can link me to any resources? I remember reading on this forum that becker had an appendix of it but I can't seem to find it (using new becker 2017). Now, the IFRS stuff seems scattered throughout the chapters and I am very lost on remembering them all.

    I probably should have made my own list starting with module 1 but I was banking on this becker appendix which I recently realized seemed nonexistent hahaha

    #1573775
    Krakebo007
    Participant

    @livloon
    Hi
    I had the same issue when using becker 2014 version
    so i did a comparison between becker 2014 and 2017 and rearranged topics according to 2017 version
    Furthermore i don't have a full material package that comes with study planner,just have Gleim test bank and ninja MCQs as well
    So I set up a flexible personal study plan for myself using excel format
    you just change dates and your plan will be ready
    Notify me if you want a copy

    Journey started 15-08-2015
    BEC 01-10-2015
    FAR 29-11-2015
    AUD 03-01-2016
    REG 29-02-2016

    #1573787
    Krakebo007
    Participant

    @xyz107
    you can find that table in becker review notes 2014
    page no.763 to 777
    best of luck

    Journey started 15-08-2015
    BEC 01-10-2015
    FAR 29-11-2015
    AUD 03-01-2016
    REG 29-02-2016

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