FAR Study Group July August 2013 - Page 62

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  • #437161
    kip_snoodles
    Member

    Quick question. Are bond issue costs included in the bond carrying value for the effective interest method? Like lets say 100,000 bonds were issued for 98,000 and have bond issue costs of 5000. Would the interest expense for the period be multiplied against 98,000 or 93,000? I know you amortize bond issue costs over the life the loan, but wasn't sure what the effect of it is on the initial carrying amount.

    Thanks!

    #437162
    Mike1987
    Member

    @Kip, Under GAAP Bond issue costs are capitalized and it is amortized as its own asset over the life of the lease from the issue date. The interest expense would be multiplied against 98,000. Under IFRS it does affect the bond amortization as it either increases the discount or decreases the premium. I'm pretty sure this is correct, do correct me if I am wrong.

    #437163
    ZSRizvi
    Member

    How many hours per day/per week are you putting into studying for FAR?

    I studied way too long for BEC and feel like I failed it. I really don't want to put so much time into FAR that I sacrifice enjoying life from time to time.

    Since I won't start work until November, I've been studying 8-10 hours a day and plan on doing two chapters a week for FAR (my exam is on Oct 3) so the three weeks before the exam will be pure review.

    However I don't know the optimal strategy to use in approaching FAR because it's a monster.

    What would you all suggest (what's worked for you)?

    BEC (July 2013)
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    REG (NOV 2013)
    AUD (JAN 2014)

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    #437164
    stealthDC
    Member

    @ZSRizvi, I can't completely respond because I'm just starting FAR but I may have a couple tidbits from prior tests. Previously, I wasted too much time watching the videos because it was easy and felt productive. I'd recommend getting those out of the way, then writing the ninja notes and working multiple choice like crazy. That's what I just did for REG and I think it was a smarter way to study.

    I'm just starting FAR so we'll see how it goes…it's a lot of info but one day at a time. I would suggest not taking too much time to study since you will forget like crazy. I think 3 weeks would be enough to conquer FAR if you aren't working. I'm working but took 3 days off for REG and the 40 hours of studying I did right before the test were the most valuable. Just my $0.02 🙂

    AUD: 76
    BEC: 76
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    #437165
    PC
    Member

    Is it imperative to go through Becker sims? I'm coming to the realization I won't have time to look over them because it's either review HW questions I've flagged or look at sims (and by the sounds of it, the actual sims will be much different anyway). I figure going through the HW questions will give me some practice/basis for actual sims

    #437166
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    In my mind, the SIMs are basically just a lot of MCQs stuck together, and with “fill in the blank” instead of MC. The material is the same – any and all FAR topics! So, if you feel like you need to review those HW questions, then go for it. But, if you can squeeze in an hour or two to look over SIMs, it may help give you a feel for what you're getting into.

    Also, have you done other exams before with research SIMs? If not, I'd look at one or two of those just to get an idea of what the AL is and how to use it. I didn't before my exam and still think I got that one right, but a bit of familiarity would be helpful!

    The most important thing for the SIMs is to be able to come up with journal entries. I don't think this means memorizing them, but being able to come up with them. Like if you need to make an entry for depreciation, would you be able to figure out that the debit is “Depreciation Expense” and the credit is “Accumulated Depreciation”, if you were given a listing of account names to pick from? In my mind, the MCQs already test your ability to figure the amounts, and whether the account increases or decreases – the SIMs just make you convert that into debit and credit. And the best part is SIMs award partial credit, so if you get the right amounts in the wrong order (like credit the expense), you'll still get some credit!

    Now I know the SIMs kill most people, so this advice probably isn't the best for everyone. But, this is my opinion after taking FAR. 🙂 Learning the topics is the key, and if you'll learn them best from reviewing HW, then go for it!

    #437167
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ZSRizvi It varies for everyone. However, FAR has a buttload more material than BEC, so studying the same number of hours for FAR as you did for BEC is not likely to make you feel over-studied! I would say that your plan sounds solid, to work through the materials at a pace that works for you and leaves you with 3 weeks for review before the exam. That means that you can freshen up on everything that you study right now, and still have time to drill your weak points. So, you'll be studying more hours than I did (since I had about as much time weeks-wise, but was working basically full-time), but you're a different person! If BEC seemed over-studied, then FAR will probably be about perfect with a similar amount of study.

    #437168
    kip_snoodles
    Member

    Has anyone who is using both Becker and supplementing with Wiley noticed they use different names for some of the Governmental Financial Statements?

    #437169
    ZSRizvi
    Member

    @stealthDC

    You make a valid point about the lectures. But, I also feel like Olinto covers a lot of things in his lectures that aren't in the books (or at least aren't as clear).

    To make sure that I understand FAR to the best of my abilities, I've decided that I'll read the chapter first, then watch the lecture, then write notes and make flashcards and finally do the hw. That way the information will be drilled into my head 3-4 times (and a fifth time during the review week). I maybe be overdoing it, but I honestly don't want to retake FAR when I start working because I can't imagine studying during busy season.

    @Elisabeth

    That's exactly what has me worried. Everyone has their own study routine and comprehension levels. So if someone passed FAR with only 70 hours of study time, it might also be that they're working in the industry, they understand things quicker, etc. I think one of the mistakes I did with BEC is that others were telling me “Oh you're studying too much, it's easy if you've put that many hours in already…” etc… I don't know whether I've passed or failed BEC but when I did go in for the exam, I felt like even all those hours I put in weren't enough.

    I'm hoping FAR isn't like BEC; that if you study the material, that should be good. With BEC it was just…even if you studied, they brought information out of nowhere or calculations that Becker/Wiley didn't cover and it was just… “WTH.”

    BEC (July 2013)
    FAR (OCT 2013)
    REG (NOV 2013)
    AUD (JAN 2014)

    The CPA Exam is an opponent that not even the Fellowship of the Ring would want to come across.

    I have a long...long...journey ahead of me.

    #437170
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Struggle.

    This is my vent.

    #437171
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Does anybody think the way becker presents FIFO, LIFO and dollar value more complex than it really is? just seems kind of unorganized to me and confusing

    #437172
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Exam on Friday and it's my first one. I have been totally defeated by this section and I'm so over it. I know I should be putting my all into it but even watching the lectures after 3 weeks I knew this would be a retake for me. Good luck everyone who is taking this nightmare of a section!

    #437173
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Exam on Friday and it's my first one. I have been totally defeated by this section and I'm so over it. I know I should be putting my all into it but even watching the lectures after 3 weeks I knew this would be a retake for me. Good luck everyone who is taking this nightmare of a section!

    #437176
    jeff
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    #437177
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @ZSRizvi The good news for you is that generally, if you feel like you got run over by a truck, you're in good shape. 😛 These exams cover so much material that you will never know it all, but if the exam was giving you its toughest questions, that means that you did great on the questions you'd answered previously. So, if there were topics that you hadn't seen in Wiley or Becker, I'd guess that means you did so well that they were throwing you all the curve-balls they had! Don't let how you felt about BEC discourage you as your study for FAR.

    But at the same time, FAR has as lot of material to be familiar with, so if you personally don't feel like you have enough time for FAR, there's no shame in giving yourself more time. Just try to gauge how you're doing and don't worry too much about gauging yourself by other people. And like you said, some people will tell you that BEC was easy so no need to study for it, and others will tell you it's a monster and they hate it. The individual differences with this exam are part of what make it a challenge – you can't just talk to someone else and get a fool-proof plan! All that being said, though, the study time that you're allotting sounds quite sufficient. As long as you review really well in your last 3 weeks, it won't be too long…but it's long enough to be able to have a very good understanding of the material. Just focus on understanding concepts, rather than memorizing details, and you should be good!

    @CPA Dilemma Don't give up on it yet!! You still have 2 days to refine your skills and be ready to kick this thing to the curb. Two days before my exam, I thought I'd fail it (actually, the night before too – cried Sunday and Tuesday, then took it Wednesday), and I passed with an 83. Not a ridiculously high score, but it's got room for error! So don't give up. Give this final prep everything you've got, and give FAR a run for its money. You can still pull this off!

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