FAR Study Group July August 2013 - Page 17

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  • #436485
    TaRenee
    Member

    @CPA4birthdaypresent .. I am with you, I hit a wall yesterday and only did half of Chapter 3's homework… I now realize that taking notes in my book instead of a seperate notebook is going to work better for me.

    I also plan on printing out tricky questions and putting them in a binder with notes on them as part of my review process…

    but… GROUP QUESTION!!!!

    How is everyone attacking the Sims? Are you guys spending hours on them trying to figure out the right answer, or do you look at the solutions and work “backwards”?

    Part of me just wants to use the solution as I work the sims to help use my time more efficient. I don't think staring at the computer for an hour hoping the right answer comes to my mind is best

    REG [75] 02.27.13(1)
    AUD [82] 04.15.13(1)
    BEC [79] 05.29.13(1)
    FAR [62] 08.26.13(1) [76] 02.24.14(2) - God is able!!! 🙂

    Licensed NC CPA

    #436486
    icanhazcpa
    Member

    @TaRenee I'm not sure how to tackle the SIMS best since I've only had BEC. I've been giving them a try without taking too much time and then checking the answer and trying to understand it. I think I'm going to clear them all out and try them again as it gets closer to test time. The one I have the most problem with is in F1 where you have to correct all the problems. So I'm going to go over that one a lot, as well as the examples in Becker because I know if there's something I don't look at, that's the one that will be on the test! But I look forward to hearing how others are planning to deal with the SIMS, or how they've dealt with them successfully in the past.

    BEC - 83
    FAR - 83
    REG - 74, 78
    AUD - 76

    Becker Self Study

    #436487
    TaRenee
    Member

    @icanhazcpa thanks for your response! I started my binder yesterday so I will put my solutions in there for when I get ready to do Chapter 1-3 Sims this weekend….

    lets see what everybody else has to say about their method of attack 🙂

    REG [75] 02.27.13(1)
    AUD [82] 04.15.13(1)
    BEC [79] 05.29.13(1)
    FAR [62] 08.26.13(1) [76] 02.24.14(2) - God is able!!! 🙂

    Licensed NC CPA

    #436488
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I don't have a plan of attack for the SIMS…and that's a problem…esp. because I haven't been tooo far off from passing and I know I've come up short because of SIMS

    that being said, I too am interested to see what others' plans are for SIMS.

    #436489
    Tncincy
    Participant

    I think the only way to prepare for Sims is to practice them. I know many say they don't but if this is a problem area….then fix the problem . fix what's weak.

    It begins with a 75
    Been here too long as a cheerleader....ready to pass

    #436490
    StephAV
    Member

    I haven't done many SIMS but I was thinking if I don't know what I'm doing then I'll look at the answer and work through it correctly. Then mark it for review. Go back and try it again without looking at the answer. I'm getting more nervous the further I get.

    I also would love to buy the full audio, but I can't even pull the trigger on the $100 for just FAR. I really should. It is just sooo much information. I need to be drilling it into my brain all the time!

    FAR - 7/13 - 72, 11/13- 74, 2/14- 82!!! Best score ever (for me)!!!
    BEC - 1/14 - 75!!! Perfect score! First Pass! YAY!!!
    AUD - 8/14 - 80!!!
    REG - 5/14 - 72, 10/14 - 66, 1/15 - 78 - DONE FOREVER!!!
    I did 5 of the UNA and CPAExcel classes to earn units.

    #436491
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Can anyone explain this? Effective interest rate Q:

    QUESTION:

    On July 1, 2004, York Co. purchased, as a held-to-maturity investment, $1,000,000 of Park, Inc.'s 8% bonds for $946,000, including accrued interest of $40,000.

    The bonds were purchased to yield 10% interest. The bonds mature on January 1, 2011 and pay interest annually on January 1. York uses the effective interest method of amortization.

    In its December 31, 2004 Balance Sheet, what amount should York report as investment in bonds?

    ANSWER:

    $911,300

    Initial investment cost: $946,000-$40,000 = $906,000

    Interest revenue for 2004: $906,000(.10)(1/2 year) = $45,300

    Less cash interest for 6 months: $1,000,000(.08)(1/2) = (40,000)

    Equals amortization of discount (increases investment)

    5,300

    Investment in bonds balance at the end of 2004

    $911,300

    The initial investment cost or balance excludes accrued interest. The bonds were purchased at the halfway point in the interest period. York must pay for 1/2 a year's interest, and will receive a full year's interest on January 1, 2005. The interest revenue for the year is based on the effective yield of 10%. The difference between interest revenue and the cash interest earned for the second half of 2004 is the growth in the value of the bond over time.

    The book value of the bond investment at maturity will be $1,000,000. Thus, the discount amortization increases the investment carrying value each year until it reaches $1,000,000.

    MY QUESTION:

    Why is the interest revenue calculated on the initial cost and not the carry amount ($946,000)? I thought when you use the effective interest method, you are taking the interest on the carrying amount to date, including all the interest up to that point?

    #436492
    StephAV
    Member

    I did it! I bought the full set of Ninja audio! I used promo code “Hiya” and it was $254. That seemed more reasonable that just FAR for $100 or whatever it is…

    FAR - 7/13 - 72, 11/13- 74, 2/14- 82!!! Best score ever (for me)!!!
    BEC - 1/14 - 75!!! Perfect score! First Pass! YAY!!!
    AUD - 8/14 - 80!!!
    REG - 5/14 - 72, 10/14 - 66, 1/15 - 78 - DONE FOREVER!!!
    I did 5 of the UNA and CPAExcel classes to earn units.

    #436493
    kevlee
    Member

    I think you need it take it out of the initial cost because the $40k of accrued interest doesn't belong to York.

    Even though York is receiving the 40k of accrued interest, he/she bought the bond in July and not Jan.

    #436494
    StephAV
    Member

    @dante042104 –

    The bond will pay you $1,000,000 at maturity and the interest rate is 8%, you purchased it for less than $1,000,000 which is called a discount because you want to “effectively” earn 10% maybe because rates have gone up? The accrued interest is for the interest earned on the bond already for the year, you are purchasing in July you pay that upfront because at the end of the year the bond issuer is going to pay you a full years interest payment. Your entry when you purchase is going to be

    Dr. Asset –Bond Invest 906,000

    Dr. Accr’d Int 40,000

    Cr. Cash 946,000

    When you receive that interest at YE

    Dr. Cash 45,300

    Cr. Acc’d Int 40,000

    Cr. Int. income 5300

    So I think that the answer to your question is that the 946,000 is not the Carrying value… Right??

    FAR - 7/13 - 72, 11/13- 74, 2/14- 82!!! Best score ever (for me)!!!
    BEC - 1/14 - 75!!! Perfect score! First Pass! YAY!!!
    AUD - 8/14 - 80!!!
    REG - 5/14 - 72, 10/14 - 66, 1/15 - 78 - DONE FOREVER!!!
    I did 5 of the UNA and CPAExcel classes to earn units.

    #436495
    gorbuha
    Participant

    @StephAV

    What is the correct answer?

    FAR - 89
    AUD - 84
    BEC - 84
    REG - 49, 86
    ETHICS - 96........ DONE!!!

    #436496
    ROACH
    Member

    Just got done with lectures (Yaeger).

    How are you guys attacking the MCQs?

    I have the WTB and was thinking about writing notes in a word doc while working MCQs… not too sure if that's effective or not though. I do tend to forget a lot in between chapters… but this method will take me weeeks to finish all MCQs.

    BEC: 66 | 69 | 7/23/2013
    AUD: 8/28/2013
    REG:
    FAR:

    #436497
    StephAV
    Member

    I think some of that, earlier post (most?) is wrong… But still, I was thinking I wanted to show you why the $40k isn't part of the CV and I think that is still correct.

    Roach – I'm jealous! I'm about halfway through the lectures. I'm going to primarily use the Wiley Test Bank in study mode. Focus on one topic at a time…

    FAR - 7/13 - 72, 11/13- 74, 2/14- 82!!! Best score ever (for me)!!!
    BEC - 1/14 - 75!!! Perfect score! First Pass! YAY!!!
    AUD - 8/14 - 80!!!
    REG - 5/14 - 72, 10/14 - 66, 1/15 - 78 - DONE FOREVER!!!
    I did 5 of the UNA and CPAExcel classes to earn units.

    #436498
    ROACH
    Member

    Steph, tbh I half-assed most of the lectures… I skipped most of Phil's lectures… half the stuff doesn't register for me.

    I'm just going to go through the WTB MCQs and see what areas I'm weak at and then re-watch the lecture on those parts… I should have a better grasp on the main ideas.

    I'm hoping I'll be able to get through WTB 2x too and I'm aiming for mid July test window.

    BEC: 66 | 69 | 7/23/2013
    AUD: 8/28/2013
    REG:
    FAR:

    #436499
    kip_snoodles
    Member

    Posters who had previously mentioned how frustrating Becker F2 is were not joking!

    Like half of the MC questions are not even covered in the text/lecture.

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