[Q1] FAR Study Group 2014 - Page 136

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  • #527475
    Anonymous
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    @samdiego–The only way I can think of it is that permanent differences are those things that will never have a tax impact and everything else is temporary. I think the Ninja Notes example for permanent difference is a tax free Bond and examples from Kaplan are Federal taxes, life insurance premiums for an entity that is the beneficiary, and any fines/penalties that occur from breaking the law. I would think that the question would have to tell you whether or not it was a permanent difference or a temporary one, but I'm not sure. I haven't started my MCQs on that section yet.

    #527440
    samdiegoCPA
    Member

    They don't usually 🙁 You have to know which are permanent/temporary. I get the most confused when something is taxable or deductible in future periods or whatever. What does deductible in the future mean? I guess that makes me confused? Ahhhhh

    AUD: 84
    REG: 84
    BEC: 79
    FAR: 83

    #527477
    samdiegoCPA
    Member

    They don't usually 🙁 You have to know which are permanent/temporary. I get the most confused when something is taxable or deductible in future periods or whatever. What does deductible in the future mean? I guess that makes me confused? Ahhhhh

    AUD: 84
    REG: 84
    BEC: 79
    FAR: 83

    #527442
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Deductible just means deducted from taxable income.

    #527479
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Deductible just means deducted from taxable income.

    #527444
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    OK–I am running into the same problem. I'm working on deferred taxes right now too. How the heck was I supposed to know the U.S. Bonds are taxable and State of Georgia Bonds are not? What the heck?!

    #527481
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    OK–I am running into the same problem. I'm working on deferred taxes right now too. How the heck was I supposed to know the U.S. Bonds are taxable and State of Georgia Bonds are not? What the heck?!

    #527446
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Deductible in the future just means that you will be able to deduct the expense on your tax return in the future.

    Defered taxes is really about timing differences between financial and tax accounting. Sometimes an expense will never

    be deductible for income tax purposes, which will create a permanent difference. Most times, you have a difference in how you

    recognize expenses year over year when you compare book net income to taxable income. This is a temporary difference.

    For example:

    if taxable income is higher than book income, this creates a defered tax asset.

    If book income is higher than taxable income, this creates a defered liability.

    Book Income Tax Income

    800 1,000

    You pay taxes on the extra 200, but when you took a provision for income taxes you did not include the extra 200.

    Lets assume a rate of 35%:

    800*35%= 280 in income taxe expens per book

    1,000*35%=350 income tax expense per return

    The $70 difference is a defered tax asset

    Entry below:

    Debit – Provision for taxes – 280

    Credit – Income Tax liability – 350

    Debit – Defered tax asset – 70

    Temporary Differences – Macrs Depreciation, Prepaid expenses, bad debt, sometimes revenue recognition policies

    Permanent Differences – Dividends received deduction, 50% of meals and entertainment, Life insurance, municipal bonds.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #527483
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    Deductible in the future just means that you will be able to deduct the expense on your tax return in the future.

    Defered taxes is really about timing differences between financial and tax accounting. Sometimes an expense will never

    be deductible for income tax purposes, which will create a permanent difference. Most times, you have a difference in how you

    recognize expenses year over year when you compare book net income to taxable income. This is a temporary difference.

    For example:

    if taxable income is higher than book income, this creates a defered tax asset.

    If book income is higher than taxable income, this creates a defered liability.

    Book Income Tax Income

    800 1,000

    You pay taxes on the extra 200, but when you took a provision for income taxes you did not include the extra 200.

    Lets assume a rate of 35%:

    800*35%= 280 in income taxe expens per book

    1,000*35%=350 income tax expense per return

    The $70 difference is a defered tax asset

    Entry below:

    Debit – Provision for taxes – 280

    Credit – Income Tax liability – 350

    Debit – Defered tax asset – 70

    Temporary Differences – Macrs Depreciation, Prepaid expenses, bad debt, sometimes revenue recognition policies

    Permanent Differences – Dividends received deduction, 50% of meals and entertainment, Life insurance, municipal bonds.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #527448

    The journal entry just made it click, thanks NYCaccountant!

    Florida:
    AUD: 73, 81! Thank you Lord!
    BEC: 73, 77! Thank you Lord! and WTB
    REG: 71, 82! Thank you Lord! and A71
    FAR: 72, 78! Thank you God and my Mommy in Heaven!

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    #527485

    The journal entry just made it click, thanks NYCaccountant!

    Florida:
    AUD: 73, 81! Thank you Lord!
    BEC: 73, 77! Thank you Lord! and WTB
    REG: 71, 82! Thank you Lord! and A71
    FAR: 72, 78! Thank you God and my Mommy in Heaven!

    CPA Excel, Ninja Notes & Audio, Wiley Test Bank, CPAreviewforfree

    #527450
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank NYCAccountant. Do you know how to determine which items are taxable and which aren't? I think samdiego and I are having the same problem–determining what the permanent differences are to know whether they will ever impact taxes or not. See my bond problem above. The question literally lists those two bonds with no indication of which ones are/are not taxable. How do you know the difference? Maybe taking REG first would have helped. hahaha

    #527487
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank NYCAccountant. Do you know how to determine which items are taxable and which aren't? I think samdiego and I are having the same problem–determining what the permanent differences are to know whether they will ever impact taxes or not. See my bond problem above. The question literally lists those two bonds with no indication of which ones are/are not taxable. How do you know the difference? Maybe taking REG first would have helped. hahaha

    #527452
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    I took FAR before I took REG and I have no tax experience. If I can remember whats permanent and whats temporary, anyone can do it. There are only a few differences. Just know the permanent ones and essentially everything else is temporary.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

    #527489
    NYCaccountant
    Participant

    I took FAR before I took REG and I have no tax experience. If I can remember whats permanent and whats temporary, anyone can do it. There are only a few differences. Just know the permanent ones and essentially everything else is temporary.

    FAR - 93
    REG - 87
    BEC - 84!!!!
    AUD - 99!!!!!! CPA exam complete.

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