FAR Study Group January/February 2013 - Page 66

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  • #400264
    FlipACoin
    Participant

    Awww Hustlin gave her boyfriend the gift of sleep today. Nicely done Hustlin!

    PS…if you are wondering who the heck I am I lurk alot πŸ™‚

    #400265
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    So confused… would really appreciate any help

    On May 1, 2002, Bolt Corp. issued 11% bonds in the face amount of $1,000,000, which mature on May 1, 2012.

    The bonds were issued to yield 10%, resulting in bond premium of $62,000. Bolt uses the effective interest method of amortizing bond premium. Interest is payable semiannually on November 1 and May 1.

    In its October 31, 2002 balance sheet, what amount should Bolt report as unamortized bond premium? The answer is

    60100

    The entry is

    Int Expense 53100

    Bond Premium 1900

    Cr. Interest Payable 55000

    <b>Why is this interest payable? It says because as of 10/31 6 month period has passed, interest exp must be recognized but cash isn't since its due the next day. This would make sense but a similar question…</b>

    On January 1, 2004, Kay Inc. issued its 10% bonds in the face amount of $400,000, which mature on January 1, 2014. The bonds were issued for $354,000 to yield 12%, resulting in a bond discount of $46,000. Kay uses the effective interest method of amortizing bond discount. Interest is payable semiannually on July 1 and January 1.

    At June 30, 2004, Kay's unamortized bond discount would be (ANSWER 44760)

    But this time, the entry is

    Interest expense 21240

    Cr. Bond discount 1240

    Cr. Cash 20000

    <b> I guess my main question is, why are these entries different? <b> If cash is paid the next day July 1, why isnt it recorded as a interest payable instead of cash like the first entry?

    #400266
    peetree
    Member

    @lbi Remember the problem states that the fair value equals received equals the carrying value of the asset given up. Even though these are wordy questions, they can kill you if you don't take your time on them. Force yourself to take your time on them and write out the journal entry.

    Dr. New equipment 10,000

    Dr. Plug

    Cr. Old equipment 10,000.

    Cr. Cash 2,000

    You already know that you gave up cash, you already know that you're giving up an asset with the same value as the asset you're receiving, so your credit to cash needs to be offset with something, and you most definitely know what that something is because you're a badass.

    @cpahopeful It looks to be just semantics of the person writing the question because I agree with you there is no real difference. Luckily the question is asking just for the premium and discount amounts but yeah I can't see what would make one cash and the other interest payable. I guess if you could imagine an operation that doesn't have a proper accounts payable department and records expenses as a direct reduction in cash πŸ˜› (but that is crazy talk!)

    Anyone else know why one is interest payable and the other cash?

    FAR 02/21/13 - 95
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    Ethics Exam - 90

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    #400267
    lbi18
    Member

    Thanks, @peetree!

    I just reread the section of the chapter and it said to assume any FV of assets received includes any cash paid. Very tricky!

    It does make sense to me now though, thanks again.

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    #400268
    FlipACoin
    Participant

    Peetree…Got me! I was hoping MCLKT would chime in with some of her CPA-sexyness. Her knowledge of bonds is outstanding.

    I'm guessing you are right though. Potato Potaaato. The only thing I could think of that could impact the calculation is time zone differences to parent company in a subsidary type situation? What is the last day of the period in one location is the first day of the period in another? Damn I hope something like that is never on an exam…

    #400269
    peetree
    Member

    @FlipaCoin LOL I would send a strongly worded letter to the examiners if they wanted me to take timezones into my account.

    FAR 02/21/13 - 95
    REG 07/02/13 - 87
    AUD 08/02/13 - 94
    BEC 08/30/13 - 85
    Ethics Exam - 90

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    #400270
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks peetree, it still stumps me but I'm trying not to look too into it because it started messing me up with everything I had already known! You are a big help to this thread πŸ™‚

    #400271
    MCLKT
    Participant

    Reading Peetree's answer talking about “write it out” just made me picture him dancing “walk it out”… only he's rapping “just write it out, write it out,” lol!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVSfCDiXMfA

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    #400272
    MCLKT
    Participant

    @ CPAhopeful, they're wrong πŸ™‚ it shouldn't be cash until 7/1

    Just for you Flip, here's some bond sexyness, lol!

    https://s17.postimage.org/uh6y3oqfz/20130214175252256_page_1.jpg

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    #400273
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thankyou @MCKLT! That was driving me crazy and I was starting to rethink everything I had learned. I was starting to think the question was wrong, but I am glad someone else knows the possibility too!

    #400274
    MCLKT
    Participant

    Does this make me a Bond girl? πŸ™‚

    Okay, POWERNIGHT!

    Financial Instruments here I come.

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    #400275
    Melans
    Member

    Hey guys, its been a long while since I posted. And I haven't caught up on all the posts- busy season is killing me this year, I have been super busy. A couple of thoughts, I am really relieved to read that some of you have been working on this just like me, and by that I mean off and on for a few years- I thought I was the only slacker dragging this out. And I am also glad I am not the only one who didn't take this straight out of college. I went into to private and then to public, so there were several years between school and the decision to tackle this beast. But this time around no foolin', no slackin', stay focused and get this done! So motivated, I am working on it during busy season (one of my previous excuses to not study). And I will admit, my progress has not been what I hoped, but there is constant progress!!! Thank you guys for all the motivation and stories, and while I haven't had much input lately- I have enjoyed reading your study tales.

    And as one final thought- kudos to all you that get up and study before work- seriously that is amazing.

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    #400276
    joch0803
    Member

    Hey Everyone!!

    Quick question…….what does everyone think about the Wiley test bank. I am currently using Becker self study and it has gotten me thru two sections, but I am wondering if I should supplement with something else also to give me an extra push for final review (which I will have four full days for).

    Any advice is appreciated : )

    Happy Studying!

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    Financial-2/25/13- 78
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    License pending : )

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    #400277
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @joch0803: Wiley test bank is awesome , its completely different approach to view the question,, but if you are running out of time for revision then stick to Becker.

    @ ok here is another stretch for 6- 7 hours to my hot valentine date: PENSIONS <3 ..

    alrighty good luck studying .. catch you guys in a bit! <3

    #400278
    FlipACoin
    Participant

    MCLKT…Hey easy there! I'm at work you need to save the good stuff for after hours! That was bondamazing…..

    And YES I officially nominate you bondgirl πŸ™‚

    Oh I second melons comments to all of you AM studiers! I am a night person so I can barely get up in time for work as it is. I couldn't imagine studying before work! That is drive right there….

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