Far 3 equity method

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    pia ach
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    Can someone please explain to me the Becker example question on page 21 of Far 3. I do not understand how they calculated the $3000 towards adjustment to unrealized loss on available for sale securities.

    Thanks!

    Finally done!!! Experience-pending. Ethics- Pending.
    Reg 78 / 73/82.
    Aud 74/89.
    BEC 72 /78.
    FAR 74/ 73/ 82.

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  • #503343
    Study Monk
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    This post kind of reads like a homework assignment. Hopefully someone will open the book and help you though. It seems like they would have to write out the question for you to explain it right. good luck!

    I spoke to an ancient wise man who sent me on a mushroom induced journey through an ancient forest to find the key to passing the CPA exam. A talking spider monkey told me to throw the last of my drinking water in the dirt to find what I was looking for. So I followed his instructions and the following message appeared in the soil:

    "Do 5000 multiple choice questions for each section"

    #503397
    Study Monk
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    This post kind of reads like a homework assignment. Hopefully someone will open the book and help you though. It seems like they would have to write out the question for you to explain it right. good luck!

    I spoke to an ancient wise man who sent me on a mushroom induced journey through an ancient forest to find the key to passing the CPA exam. A talking spider monkey told me to throw the last of my drinking water in the dirt to find what I was looking for. So I followed his instructions and the following message appeared in the soil:

    "Do 5000 multiple choice questions for each section"

    #503345
    Gatorbates
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    When they switched from the cost method to the equity method (crossing over the 50% barrier), they have to re-calculate their ownership to equity method during the time they only had 15% (what WOULD have been, should they have been using equity.)

    In doing so, it's looked at as an available for sale security, since it is neither trading or held to maturity. As such, they would have to mark to market the decrease in market value at the end of the year when they still had only 15%. They bought it for 20,000, and the FMV at 12-31-Year 1 was 17,000. So they would have to debit loss on AVS security in OCI, and credit the investment.

    Since they are now adjusting the value of the investment of what “would have been”, it is now in equity method, and not considered an AFS security. In this problem, the total value of their investment “had it been equity the entire time” would have been 24,450. In doing the calculation switching it to equity, they made the adjustment 3,000 OCI loss and 3,000 reduction of investment, thus, the investment account “would have been” 17,000 had the equity method been used. So to get the 17,000 investment account up to the actual new equity method value of 24,450, you have to make an adjustment of 7,450. HOWEVER, if you strictly make that adjustment to RE (credit) and Investment (debit), the 3,000 of loss is still hanging around in OCI … you need to make it whole, and adjust it back to zero at that time. Therefore, you would debit the Investment account by 7,450, adjusting to the actual value of 24,450, then credit OCI loss for the 3,000, making it zero, and the difference of 4,450 is the adjustment/plug to RE.

    Hopefully that helps.

    Licensed Florida CPA:
    B: 71, 73, 79
    A: 83
    R: 78 (expired), 77
    F: 74, 74, 80

    It's finally freaking over.

    #503399
    Gatorbates
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    When they switched from the cost method to the equity method (crossing over the 50% barrier), they have to re-calculate their ownership to equity method during the time they only had 15% (what WOULD have been, should they have been using equity.)

    In doing so, it's looked at as an available for sale security, since it is neither trading or held to maturity. As such, they would have to mark to market the decrease in market value at the end of the year when they still had only 15%. They bought it for 20,000, and the FMV at 12-31-Year 1 was 17,000. So they would have to debit loss on AVS security in OCI, and credit the investment.

    Since they are now adjusting the value of the investment of what “would have been”, it is now in equity method, and not considered an AFS security. In this problem, the total value of their investment “had it been equity the entire time” would have been 24,450. In doing the calculation switching it to equity, they made the adjustment 3,000 OCI loss and 3,000 reduction of investment, thus, the investment account “would have been” 17,000 had the equity method been used. So to get the 17,000 investment account up to the actual new equity method value of 24,450, you have to make an adjustment of 7,450. HOWEVER, if you strictly make that adjustment to RE (credit) and Investment (debit), the 3,000 of loss is still hanging around in OCI … you need to make it whole, and adjust it back to zero at that time. Therefore, you would debit the Investment account by 7,450, adjusting to the actual value of 24,450, then credit OCI loss for the 3,000, making it zero, and the difference of 4,450 is the adjustment/plug to RE.

    Hopefully that helps.

    Licensed Florida CPA:
    B: 71, 73, 79
    A: 83
    R: 78 (expired), 77
    F: 74, 74, 80

    It's finally freaking over.

    #503347
    Study Monk
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    In retrospect I was kind of an a*shole. Sorry pia ach. I was just disappointed I didn't get to answer it because i wasn't ready to open my FAR book again 🙁

    I spoke to an ancient wise man who sent me on a mushroom induced journey through an ancient forest to find the key to passing the CPA exam. A talking spider monkey told me to throw the last of my drinking water in the dirt to find what I was looking for. So I followed his instructions and the following message appeared in the soil:

    "Do 5000 multiple choice questions for each section"

    #503401
    Study Monk
    Member

    In retrospect I was kind of an a*shole. Sorry pia ach. I was just disappointed I didn't get to answer it because i wasn't ready to open my FAR book again 🙁

    I spoke to an ancient wise man who sent me on a mushroom induced journey through an ancient forest to find the key to passing the CPA exam. A talking spider monkey told me to throw the last of my drinking water in the dirt to find what I was looking for. So I followed his instructions and the following message appeared in the soil:

    "Do 5000 multiple choice questions for each section"

    #503349
    pia ach
    Member

    Thanks Gatorbates, really appreciate the detailed reply to explain it so well. Good luck on your FAR!

    No problem Study Monk , i see you just gave FAR yesterday so i can totally understand not wanting to be anywhere close to the book 🙂

    Finally done!!! Experience-pending. Ethics- Pending.
    Reg 78 / 73/82.
    Aud 74/89.
    BEC 72 /78.
    FAR 74/ 73/ 82.

    #503403
    pia ach
    Member

    Thanks Gatorbates, really appreciate the detailed reply to explain it so well. Good luck on your FAR!

    No problem Study Monk , i see you just gave FAR yesterday so i can totally understand not wanting to be anywhere close to the book 🙂

    Finally done!!! Experience-pending. Ethics- Pending.
    Reg 78 / 73/82.
    Aud 74/89.
    BEC 72 /78.
    FAR 74/ 73/ 82.

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