Didn't allocate enough time for the sims on the FAR exam - Page 3

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  • #187785
    krokofilen
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    I know there’s a million threads like this on the forum, but I just need to ventilate a little…

    I just got out of this prison cell thy call prometric center, and I had one hell of an experience in there, taking the FAR exam.

    First testlet – I felt incredibly well prepared. Flagged 4 questions but after going back, only 2 of them were critical ones (funny enough, first question was one of the toughest on the entire exam and I spent probably 10 min on that one, still guessing and still not having a clue on how to make that calculation, all though I knew the underlying concept really good). I spent in total 55 min, i.e. too much, on this first simple testlet.

    Second testlet – increased level of difficulty, no doubt. I flagged a total of 8, of which I found 4 to be critical. All togeter propbably did pretty well. Wanted to get out and drink some redbull when I was done with this testlet, but realized I had spent 60 minutes so I was way behind schedule and decided to move on immediately.

    Third testlet – This was a punch right in the face. It was just ridicilous how odd questions popped up here, and I ended up spending a lot of time on then and flagging 12-13 questions. Not taking that break after the second testlet haunted me throughout this testlet and I felt both disoriented on time and not focused enough. I knew all concepts beig tested, but there was one particular topic coming back over and over and over again (and it was not one of my favorites either), and as I got more and more tired I felt like I was both spending too much time reading the questions, and being super stressed while carrying out the necessary calculations. I was through the testlet after 65 minutes, and realized I had no time at all to review my 12 (!!!!) flagged questions, nor take that much needed break.

    So to sum up on the MCQ testlets, I was obviosuly doing well on both first (propably 94%) and second (propably 90%), since the third testlet was a killer beyond this world. Who ever composed that third testlet was pissed off as hell. On the third, I am guessing I got like 70% (assuming I failed 75% of the ones I flagged).

    So with one hour left, I started on the sims. I had no problem what so ever on the AUD sims (in fact, I found them really easy and finshed well ahead of time), and while knowing that FAR sims are tougher, I knew I was walking in on this exam very well prepared and that I a reasonable understanding of the format and structure of FAR sims through practising like 50% of the NINJA sims. First thing I realized was that I had underestimated this, and that I had way to little time allocated with 60 min. So I clicked myself through all 7, to make sure I could clear any less extensive ones first. There was only one AL, which i cleared immediately (more likely than not I got it right). All the others were extreme – and by that I mean they were really something completely different from what I have seen in Ninja. All of them. A few of them seemed like it would take me 30 min to finish on its own. Completely stressed out I began on a one-by-one basis. First one was on a concept I have not read one sentence on in Becker, nor seen any Ninja MCQs on, but I did alright I guess, thanks to AL (I hope this was not the pretest one, given that it came across as a odd bird). Second and third one I as completely confident on concept wise, but I was so stressed out due to time running out (and the fact that I was tired from not having that break), that I had do run my way through the calculations and as such increased the risk of misstakes significantly. I am sure I did not get 100% of these. Forth one I guessed my way through as the instructions were not very clear and I didn’t fully understand what to do, so say I got 50% on this. I started with the fifth one but ran out of time, and whatever I put in there was not correct I realized just before exitig, so 0%. Sixth and last sim I did not even start, but from what I could see it was huuuuuge and would take like 30 min to solve with tons of cells to fill out.

    So to sum up the sims, I got one AL right, got propbably some right (say 60%) on 3 sims, like 50% on one, and 0% for sure on 2. This was all due to time, and if I would have had another 45 mins, I could have completed all sims with 90% right as I am confident I knew the underlying concepts. I honestly can’t see how anyone could finish these sims in less than 1:45 hours, given the amounts of details and calculations needed.

    Questions;

    Did anyone here have a similar experience and passed? Right now I feel like I propably won’t, due to some uncertainty in the third testlet and the fact that I got 0 on two full sims.

    What do you think about my chances, given the above details?

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    Also, I realized for one sim that they asked me to fill in the amounts for any debit and credits. As such, I did not put 0’s in, should I? I also noted that “no entry needed” option was present only for one line, i.e I could not fill that in for all lined not needed – this is different from the Ninja sims, so it makes me wonder if I understood that part right? Finally, I wonder if it could possibly be right that no JE is needed at all, when they provide you with a JE box and “no entry needed” alternative is not present – for one of the sims, I left all blank becouse I did not see how any JE would be needed.

    Thanks for reading

    Big 4 Audit Manager from Europe here to pass the CPA in the U.S. of A in 2014! Niiice!

    AUD - 95 / Jul 15 / 130h over 4 weeks
    FAR - 86 / Aug 14 / 240h over 4 weeks
    (11 week break)

    REG - 81 / Nov 14 / 200h over 4 weeks
    BEC - 87 / Nov 17 / 30 h over 2.5 days

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  • #588366
    jobach_lsu
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    I think you'll be fine. It sounds like you did well enough on the multiple choice to make up for the sims. FAR was the only test of the 4 where I felt there was a strong possibilty that I failed and I ended up with a 97, so who knows.

    AUD 4/4/2014 - 97
    FAR 5/29/2014 - 97
    REG 7/10/2014 - 90
    BEC 8/1/2014 - 89

    #588367
    klink24
    Participant

    You only need to put in zeros where they say to put in zeros. If they don't say to put in zeros you don't have to. I didn't and I did okay. I think review material makes you do that because their scoring system can't reconcile blank fields.

    Don't take this as gospel though and do what you feel most comfortable with.

    FAR: 4/19/2014 - 85!
    AUD: 5/27/2014 - 90!
    REG: 7/18/2014 - 81!
    BEC: 8/13/2014 - 84!

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    #588368
    Kimboroni
    Member

    Since they give you points for correct answers and don't take off points for incorrect ones, I always put in zeros in blank fields just to be on the safe side. I don't want to accidentally leave easy points on the table.

    But I bet you did well enough, Kroko.

    AUD 84 (1/9/14-Wiley books/TB + free materials)
    FAR 83 (5/21/14-the above + NINJA 10 Pt Combo Lite)
    REG 84 (7/9/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC/Notes)
    BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

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    #588369
    zieba
    Participant

    I am still trying to definitively answer the question of whether to put zeros in or leave things blank. In the meantime, I passed the exam.

    Kroko, I think you may be pleasantly surprised. I don't think you did 80's well by any stretch, but I think you may have pulled it off. Head up baby!

    One hour is less than ideal, for sure. I came in with 2:15 and used up the last 15 mulling over things.

    AUD - 75*, 88 done 5/14! (*exp)
    BEC - 74 , 77
    REG - 65 , 76 (10 point combooo!!)
    FAR - 69 , 75

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    #588370
    Laura M.
    Member

    The first time I took FAR I ran out of time on the SIMs. I spent the last 20 mins just filling in blanks/panicking because I knew I was going to be out of time….in hindsight I should have just answered what I thought I knew and left others blank….anyway, I got a 74. I was so upset because I know the time was the difference between the pass and fail! I took it again this month and hoping that I did better. I felt my MCQ were harder this time than last but I think I did much better on SIMs…so hopefully that all balances out and I can get a 75+

    FAR - 82
    AUD - 79 (lost credit), 75
    BEC - 76
    REG - 91

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    #588371
    krokofilen
    Member

    You're gonna hate me now for crying out so loud here, but I actually did not feel good at all about the sims, I DID allocate way to little time for them and I DID skip 2 of them completely (i.e. did not even fill in zeros).

    I suppose I must have KILLED the first and second MCQ testlet, and probably did pretty good on the third one too, and that one of the sims that I skipped were pre-test – my score was 86.

    So this proves that yes you can definately skip a few sims and you can definately feel like crap after the exam, and still end up with a decent score.

    Big 4 Audit Manager from Europe here to pass the CPA in the U.S. of A in 2014! Niiice!

    AUD - 95 / Jul 15 / 130h over 4 weeks
    FAR - 86 / Aug 14 / 240h over 4 weeks
    (11 week break)

    REG - 81 / Nov 14 / 200h over 4 weeks
    BEC - 87 / Nov 17 / 30 h over 2.5 days

    #588372
    fjabay
    Participant

    @krokofilen I knew you were going to pass! I judged it from your score on your previous test. Congratulations!

    AUD - 07/14/14 - 88

    #588373
    jstay
    Participant

    @krokofilen Congrats! i would say i have put in close to 250 hours to FAR (if not more) and am taking 8/31.

    how do you feel becker prepared you? also how about ninja?

    #588374
    kpb
    Member

    I am starting to notice a trend between leaving some sims blank and passing vs. filling ‘whatever' and not passing. Happened to me on my AUD exam, did not pass. I've read more than 3 people passing FAR with leaving sims blank….hmmmmmmm. I wonder if leaving them blank if you don't know is better than filling anything in just to try to get points. just a thought…. CONGRATS ON PASSING!!!! so happy for you

    BEC - 81 4/08/14
    FAR - 80 8/25/14 Thank you Jesus!
    REG - 69 (Nov 14),80 1/08/15 Thank God!
    AUD - 70 (May 14), xx 5/1/15

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    I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me!

    #588375
    Kimboroni
    Member

    The people who passed FAR but left some sims blank must have done really well on the sims that they did fill in. I filled in responses on all sims but only felt solid on maybe half of them, and I passed.

    Congrats, Kroko! I knew you'd do it πŸ™‚

    AUD 84 (1/9/14-Wiley books/TB + free materials)
    FAR 83 (5/21/14-the above + NINJA 10 Pt Combo Lite)
    REG 84 (7/9/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC/Notes)
    BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

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    #588376
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    That's good to hear that you felt terrible after FAR and still passed. Now I won't be so nervous after a test. I thought I had failed REG, which was my first test, but ended up passing.

    #588377
    Kimboroni
    Member

    FAR is like a truck that runs you over, then -beep -beep -beep backs over you again for good measure.

    AUD 84 (1/9/14-Wiley books/TB + free materials)
    FAR 83 (5/21/14-the above + NINJA 10 Pt Combo Lite)
    REG 84 (7/9/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC/Notes)
    BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

    Disclaimer: My ninja avatar is not meant to imply that I have any affiliation with this site other than being a forum member. That's a pic of a T-shirt that my daughter gave me for my birthday. πŸ™‚

    #588378
    pray475
    Participant

    I know it can sound like a broken record when people tell you “you never know, you still could have passed”. But I can tell you first hand it's true. When I finally passed FAR (4th try) I ran out of time as well. I only completed 2.5 parts of the sims…everything else was entirely blank, didn't even have time to make selections from drop down menus or anything. I was obviously positive I failed…but then I got a 75, so there's always hope

    REG- 1) Aug 10' 73, 2) Aug 11' 67, 3) Nov 11' 76 (expired), 4) Aug 14' 83 PASSED!
    AUD- 5) Nov 10' 83 (expired) , 6) Nov 13' 63, 7) July 14' 74, 8) Oct 14' 98 PASSED!
    BEC-9) Oct 10' 79 (expired), 10) Nov 14' 75 PASSED!
    FAR-11) Feb 12' 61, 12) May 12' 62, 13) Aug 12' 65, 14) Aug 13' 75 PASSED!

    IM DONE!!!

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