Need help with question – Wiley FAR 2013, p. 316, #30

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    Wiley Question –

    Can someone please help me with this question? I’m wondering why, since the question does not state that all receivables were collected, is the recourse obligation of $9,000 not included as a liability?

     
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    might help if you type out the question, since a good portion of us probably didnt us wiley

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    #427188
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    Sure.

    Scarbrough Corp. factored $600,000 of accounts receivable to Duff Corp. on October 1, year 2. Control was surrendered by Scarbrough. Duff accepted the receivables subject to recourse for nonpayment. Duff assessed a fee of 3% and retains a holdback equal to 5% of the accounts receivable. In addition, Duff charged 15% interest computed on a weighted-average time to maturity of the receivables of 54 days. The fair value of the recourse obligation is $9,000. Scarbrough will receive and record cash of

    a) $529,685

    b) $538,685

    c) $547,685

    d) $556,685

    #427189
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    Which answer is correct? I just did the math real quick and came up with B. 538,685, so if that's right, what I say below is probably right…if it isn't, then what I say might still be right, but at bare minimum my math isn't lol.

    Two things though to help with this problem…

    1 – It's not asking for liabilities, only for how much money Scarborough was handed. So, you need to figure out what percentage Duff kept, and then you can figure out how many $$ Scarborough got. Duff kept 3% fee, 5% holdback (to cover uncollected ones, so this is the recourse part, though that doesn't matter for this question), and 54/365*15% for interest.

    2 – The $9000 recourse obligation FV is not a liability, because Duff kept $30,000 to cover any uncollectable accounts. I'm pretty sure that if Duff collects $590k total, they'd return the excess $20k to Scarborough, so if anything, Scarborough could think they had an asset for $21k (the $30k they left with Duff minus the $9k anticipated obligation), however, conservatism dictates that such an asset would never be recognized. But, still, there's no liability, since the best estimate of the potential liability is less than what Scarborough has, essentially, already paid to cover that liability.

    #427190
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    Elisabeth – Your answer is correct. The amount of cash received is $538,685. The problem only asked for the amount of cash received and recorded.

    DR. Cash 538,685

    Dr. Due from Factor (5% holdback) 30,000

    Dr. Loss from Factoring (3% Factors fee and Interest) 31,315

    Cr. A/R 600,000

    #427191
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    This question also confused me. In the Wiley book, it states that the recourse liability is treated as a reduction of the proceeds received. Why is it not that case in this question? I guess I'm not clear on in which case you WOULD credit the recourse obligation as the examples in the Wiley book did on pg. 300, if anyone wanted to reference it.

    #427192
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    Here is how I did it:

    Cash Debit-538,685 Asset account

    Fee Debit -18,000 Expense Account

    Due from factor Debit-30,000 Asset Account

    Interest Expense Debit-13,315 Expense Account

    Loss on factor-Debit 9,000 Expense Account

    Recourse Liability Credit-9,000 Liability account

    AR credit – 600,000 Asset account

    Base on the conservative approach you would have to assume that the factor would not be able to collect the 9,000 and

    assume an extra expense for it. Part of the $538,685 is the 9,000 that the factor paid you, which you might have to pay back. The “Due from factor” is essentially an allowance account in case goods, inventory are returned to the seller.

    That's how I see it. Let me know if I am right or wrong.

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    #427193
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    Also, if I remember correctly, you can roll all of the expense accounts into one account for “loss on factoring”.

    I def. have the name of the accounts mixed up, but i think the terminology is correct

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    #427194
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    I still don't understand how to differentiate in which case you would credit a liability account. Anyone?

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