Should I ditch Becker for FAR? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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  • #200314
    Nessie
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    Hey everyone,

    Good luck if you are writing from now until Feb 29th. 🙂 I am writing AUD on the 29th. I will be starting at one of the Big 4 mid June so I am having to write FAR at the end of May as a result. I just had a look at my Becker phone book for FAR and I am getting a sick feeling. I recognize very few topics and I am the type of person that needs to go over the whole book twice to absorb and learn. I am generally taking about 15-20 hours to fully get through a chapter in AUD.

    If I start in the first few days of March, will approximately 3 months be enough? I am a part time MBA student so still have to wrap that up by end of April. The problem I have with Becker is that its just way to much detail. Every topic drills so deep that you end up missing some areas completely due to time/brain power. I end up paying for the “final review” because I need a the editing. I don’t mind spending more, but if anyone who has used Becker, and was fairly new to the topics, I’d greatly appreciate your advice as to how to tackle this. Or should I go with another program?

    Thanks in advance!

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
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  • #759337
    EuroAddict
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    If you recognize very few topics then I would think you would want more detail like becker provides.

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    BEC - 77, 03/2015 (first try)
    FAR - 79, 05/2015 (second try)
    REG - 83, 12/2015 (first try)
    AUD - 84, 03/2015 (first try)

    I got 99 problems but the CPA ain't one.

    #759338
    Nessie
    Participant

    Good point Euro and thank you. Maybe I should just stick with it. Somehow the classes I took covered REG and AUD adequately. I just find that with Becker you really over study. That’s OK for REG and AUD, but with FAR, there is already so much content. Not sure I can squeeze it into 3 months. Ive been studying for AUD for 7 weeks and feel pretty good. FAR looks daunting.

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
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    #759339
    jason49760608
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    Nessie,

    No one can answer this question for you, but you, after you've taken FAR. What I can say is that I'm using Becker self-study and it kinda sucks and is kinda good in other ways.

    Many of the topics are explained exceedingly poorly. I've found that after a few minutes searching out the interwebs (after struggling for hours/days) I was able to find information that explained the concepts MUCH better. Everything you need is in the Becker books.

    What I would recommend is skipping all of the lectures. I have found them to be utterly useless…unless you really like highlighting the every living hell out of books in a pseudo adult-coloring-book-sorta way?

    You really just have to study the every living hell out of all of it. What you find hard, I may not, vice versa. Just commit yourself to studying harder than you ever think anyone should ever have to study. And then study another 30%, no make that 40% more and you'll be fine.

    But looking at your Reg score it looks like you already grasp that over-studying beats deficiently-studying..

    And yes…it's a stupid amount of effort that it will take to be almost assured a passing score.

    Aud 74, 70, 78
    BEC 76
    Reg 83
    FAR - February 27, 2016

    #759340
    Nessie
    Participant

    Jason , thanks and good luck on your FAR exam. I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you. I agree, the lessons, especially if it’s Tim Gearty again, is just him reading off of the book and I too went through 2 highlighters in the last 7 weeks.

    I’m going to keep what you said in mind about googling topics. What was your plan for FAR? How many hours a week, are you working? Were your studies relevant to the FAR topics??

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
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    #759341
    jason49760608
    Participant

    Nessie,

    I'll do my best to answer this if I get a few minutes before Saturday or next week.

    I can say this much now, I went through every single MCQ question that made sense to write out, and dissect and I did just that…of all the 1,944 MCQs that my version of Becker has for FAR.

    I picked and chose the good ones and wrote them out, got a highlighter and made them make sense to me.

    I started to study for FAR in July of '15 and had some major life events happen (my mother's diagnosis with cancer and no kidding eight days before my exam some temporarily life-altering legal bullshit) so I wasn't in a ‘good place' when I sat for FAR in early November.

    My ability to study was disrupted beyond comprehension only days before my exam…I got a 64. And I totally ran out of time…I probably only was able to answer maybe 40% of the SIMs at best. I was pissed…very.

    To vent a little….I am done with this right now, these silly nerd-tastic exams…my mom died 12/29/15 and I was her primary care-giver. The day she went to the hospital, only to die a few days later, I was trying to get her ready for the day so I could study when she passed-out. I did not study that day. When it was clear she was dying I changed my test date.

    And to vent a little more…my Audit exam, I sat with my mother in an E.R., no kidding, twenty-five hours before I sat for my exam and learned her cancer had moved into her bones. I was forced to go an study that day and the following morning before the exam. I had to put my phone in Airplane-Mode and did my best to explain to my sister which doctors to call, their phone #s and what to tell them. It was a Sunday when the ER doc gave us the news.

    That really sucked to have to be all like:

    “Sorry mom, but we both know there's nothing I can do about your cancer…but my CPA exam doesn't care about what we've just learned so off to study I go.”

    I'm sure knowing my mom, she felt guilty about being sick and making it hard for me to study…ugh.

    This exam, FAR and these exams took away from my ability to be with my gravely ill mother. That sucks.

    I take FAR, intentionally, on her birthday…2/27.

    May we all do well this testing window and get what we collectively deserve…

    Aud 74, 70, 78
    BEC 76
    Reg 83
    FAR - February 27, 2016

    #759342
    Nessie
    Participant

    OMG Jason, I am so, so sorry to hear what happened to you. I can totally understand what you went through with your Mom. My father passed away 6 weeks after complaining of a stomach ache from pancreatic cancer. But, I cannot imagine what it would have been like to have had it happen during CPA exams!! That’s so tough, but sounds like you handled it like a saint.

    It’s incredible how these exams can beat you up emotionally. You worry about something bad happening during the 18 months, and then it does. I feel so guilty for being cranky with my Mom. We were away after New Year’s and I told her I had to study for a large chunk of the days and she would have to do things by herself.

    Life can be so cruel sometimes, but I think writing on her birthday is a wonderful way to honor her. You are a good son and I do believe in karma. Sending good vibes to you Jason….

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
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    #759343
    Stilgoin
    Participant

    Sad to say- but my dad died Monday and I took FAR later that week in October. I understand all your dilemmas and I'm sorry for anyone who has had to go through this. 3 exams out of 4 in 2015, I had to attend funerals of immediate family the week of my exam. There is no doubt 2016 will be better for all of us.

    B | 62, 78
    A | 73, 67, 79
    R | 82
    F | 59, 59, Waiting

    Ethics | 93

    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
    ~Winston Churchill

    “In a world full of critics, be an encourager."

    #759344
    Spartans92
    Participant

    Just came across this post. I am so sorry to hear what happened Jason. As Nessie said it is a great way to honor your mom and to show her you finally passed the CPA making this much more special and meaningful for you! I hope you will pass FAR and finally put this exam behind you. Stories like yours motivates me to work harder and pass the exam so I can make my parents proud while I still can. Best of Luck!

    Sorry to hear about your circumstance too stilton. Good Luck to all!

    BEC- PASS

    #759345
    Nessie
    Participant

    Stilgoin, I am so sorry to hear this happened to you as well. 🙁 People often take the CPA when they are mature and at an age when they could be looking after their elderly, even ailing parents. I am glad some of the people have shared their stories because these challenges are real and far more difficult than learning the concepts.

    Thanks for sharing Stilgoin and congrats on your AUD exam. I’ll bet you Dad was cheering you on from above 🙂

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
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    #759346
    jason49760608
    Participant

    Nessie, Spartans, Stilgoin,

    Thanks all for sharing and your support. And wow…we've all suffered a great deal due to these exams it sounds like.

    I sat in a coffee shop today crying a little, thinking about all of this and my mom. I've been studying for FAR all the way through her illness so I come across lots of things I wrote down from doctor phone calls, et cetara. Tough to come across while studying. And wow…I cannot imagine having a parent die and take a stupid CPA exam within seven days of such a horrible event.

    We will get through this and pass!

    Hopefully during the process we won't lose any (more) friends or family.

    Nessie, I will do my best to post ad nauseam about how I've studied…and hopefully not long after I post this I'll also post that I've passed FAR

    Now…let's do this!

    Aud 74, 70, 78
    BEC 76
    Reg 83
    FAR - February 27, 2016

    #759347
    Nessie
    Participant

    Good luck Jason!

    Good things are coming your way….I promise. After my Dad passed away my life did a 180 for the better. Everyone is rooting for you!!!!

    REG Aug 20/15: 88
    AUD: Feb 29/16: 80
    FAR: Jun 10/16: 80
    BEC?

    Becker self-study, Becker Final Review & NINJA MCQS

    #759348
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Becker's AL interface is a great source to practice and master researching information and many other SIMs.

    #759349
    Spartans92
    Participant

    We all have faith in each other. I really like this forum the positivity is very crucial during the study process for this exam. Sometimes coming on here reading about other's story motivates me as well as making myself feel ashamed of all the excuses I try to give not to study. I am currently taking care of my aunt (who suffered a stroke 10 years ago) can't believe it has been a decade. She is like a second mom to me. Which is the partial reason why I am taking this exam, to pass so I can offer a better living environment for her as well as my parents (not to mention the benefits it will provide me in the future). For those just starting this journey, Good Luck! For those almost done, Best of Luck and hang on…you're SOOO CLOSE!! We can all make our loved ones proud!

    Sorry for this rather long and unrelated post

    BEC- PASS

    #759350
    jason49760608
    Participant

    Nessie,

    I failed FAR by two points and here's what I can share with you to maybe help you to pass using Becker.

    Becker is a fine for taking and passing the exams. I've passed my exams using Becker almost exclusively. Their self-study stuff is not amazing by any means but it's certainly a viable study material to take and pass the exams.

    Here's where I failed to plan for success. I had one more chapter to thoroughly review before I sat. Maybe two, but I saw exactly zero questions on the chapter I glossed over. The day before I knew that I needed another two or three days to keep working. But we all know the likelihood of me rescheduling from 2/27 to 2/29 on 2/26 would have been very very slim. And I felt very good about my general preparedness going into the exam.

    After missing audit by one point (and then like six points the 2nd time) I altered my exam strategy. That is how I take the actual test. I try to have two hours to answer the simulations. I got pretty close to that goal with this last test which helps me quite a bit from the mind-game perspective.

    From the standpoint of studying the Becker material. I go through the multiple choice questions almost exclusively. I think we'd chatted about the complete and utter waste of time it is to go through the lectures with a highlighter working the text as if it's an adult coloring book. Moreover, I would set a plan to have reviewed ALL chapters before the exam day at least once comprehensively and a second time less so.

    I unfortunately got stuck on a few chapters early on for far too long and conversely didn't have enough time at the end to cover all the material thoroughly. And the chapters I missed had comprehensive or simulation questions at the end.

    Lastly, the format of the exam changed slightly. One of my simulations was very confusing. It was asking a question that had to be answered with a number. However, the data displayed on the page had no numbers. It took me a lot of precious time to discover that this question had three tabs at the top of the page:

    (1) The question
    (2) The authoritative material
    (3) The data to answer the question

    I was in a slight panic when this happened which did not expedite my ability to locate the other tab to answer the question. I was so confused I tried putting “less” and “more” into the boxes and the computer was all like:

    “Uh, no buddy, this needs to be a number”

    So then I was all like:

    “But there are no numbers to calculate the numbers here!”

    I figured it out and answered the question but it also wasn't clear if they wanted the amounts entered as positive or negative amounts which I 2nd guessed myself on as soon as I got in the car and started heading back.

    I'm mostly over the fail now. But I am pissed at the stupidity of these exams. It's a racket, it is a very painful process and I'm just fed up with the Jedi Mind Trick B.S. of all of it. I don't know who NASBA, the AICPA or any of these other fools think this test weeds out.

    But it does not keep the public safe. I would argue as a whole it makes things less safe to have all of us wasting an immense amount of creative mental energy studying for these tests. And then to get a test that happens to be focused on a few of your weak spots when the person next to you taking the same section of the exam might get lucky on a few of their guesses and studied less than you and were less prepared and they happen to pass.

    And that letter you get in the snail-mail to tell you you failed is insulting and worthless. You're provided as close to no actionable information about how you did on the exam as possible. Why bother sending this? It's useless, wastes paper and postage.

    I've already rescheduled for May 23 and I will pass it that day. The only silver lining to this whole process that I can find right now if that any other standardized test I ever take will seem easy relative to this.

    Good luck everyone-

    Aud 74, 70, 78
    BEC 76
    Reg 83
    FAR - February 27, 2016

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