Exchanges Lacking Commercial Substance – Becker vs. Wiley

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  • #183851
    jasonrobbins
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    Becker and Wiley have conflicting calculations as how to calculate the gain for the gains/losses for these exchanges.

    Becker has gain/loss is: FV of Asset Given Up – BV of Asset Given Up

    Wiley has the calculation as: Sticker Price of New Asset Acquired / Sales price of Asset Sold – BV of Asset Given Up

    How do you know which one to use? Which is the one you will most likely see on test day?

    AUD- 97 1x
    REG- 81 1x
    BEC- 79 1x
    FAR- 88 1x

    DONE!

    10/1/12 to 2/28/14

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  • #517723
    jasonrobbins
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    Meant to post this in FAR, sorry…

    AUD- 97 1x
    REG- 81 1x
    BEC- 79 1x
    FAR- 88 1x

    DONE!

    10/1/12 to 2/28/14

    #517752
    jasonrobbins
    Member

    Meant to post this in FAR, sorry…

    AUD- 97 1x
    REG- 81 1x
    BEC- 79 1x
    FAR- 88 1x

    DONE!

    10/1/12 to 2/28/14

    #517725
    jasonrobbins
    Member

    Anyone?

    AUD- 97 1x
    REG- 81 1x
    BEC- 79 1x
    FAR- 88 1x

    DONE!

    10/1/12 to 2/28/14

    #517754
    jasonrobbins
    Member

    Anyone?

    AUD- 97 1x
    REG- 81 1x
    BEC- 79 1x
    FAR- 88 1x

    DONE!

    10/1/12 to 2/28/14

    #517727

    I had a question last night that I went over:

    Per ASC Topic 845, exchanges that lack commercial substance are accounted for at book value. Although ASC Topic 845 prohibits recognition of a gain on these exchanges, it requires the recognition of any loss. Since the carrying value of the asset surrendered by Scott exceeds the fair market value of the asset received, Scott realized a loss on this exchange. Scott should value the asset received at its fair market value. The difference between the carrying amount of the asset surrendered and its fair market value (measured by the fair market value of the asset received in this case) should be recognized as a loss.

    so, BV of Asset given up – FMV of asset received = loss recognized

    Florida:
    AUD: 73, 81! Thank you Lord!
    BEC: 73, 77! Thank you Lord! and WTB
    REG: 71, 82! Thank you Lord! and A71
    FAR: 72, 78! Thank you God and my Mommy in Heaven!

    CPA Excel, Ninja Notes & Audio, Wiley Test Bank, CPAreviewforfree

    #517756

    I had a question last night that I went over:

    Per ASC Topic 845, exchanges that lack commercial substance are accounted for at book value. Although ASC Topic 845 prohibits recognition of a gain on these exchanges, it requires the recognition of any loss. Since the carrying value of the asset surrendered by Scott exceeds the fair market value of the asset received, Scott realized a loss on this exchange. Scott should value the asset received at its fair market value. The difference between the carrying amount of the asset surrendered and its fair market value (measured by the fair market value of the asset received in this case) should be recognized as a loss.

    so, BV of Asset given up – FMV of asset received = loss recognized

    Florida:
    AUD: 73, 81! Thank you Lord!
    BEC: 73, 77! Thank you Lord! and WTB
    REG: 71, 82! Thank you Lord! and A71
    FAR: 72, 78! Thank you God and my Mommy in Heaven!

    CPA Excel, Ninja Notes & Audio, Wiley Test Bank, CPAreviewforfree

    #517729
    jasonrobbins
    Member

    Why does Becker always use the FMV of the asset given up? Does that only apply when the FV of the Asset given up = the asset received?

    AUD- 97 1x
    REG- 81 1x
    BEC- 79 1x
    FAR- 88 1x

    DONE!

    10/1/12 to 2/28/14

    #517758
    jasonrobbins
    Member

    Why does Becker always use the FMV of the asset given up? Does that only apply when the FV of the Asset given up = the asset received?

    AUD- 97 1x
    REG- 81 1x
    BEC- 79 1x
    FAR- 88 1x

    DONE!

    10/1/12 to 2/28/14

    #517731

    Yes, I believe so which is the same thing I think Wiley is saying below in a different way:

    The difference between the carrying amount of the asset surrendered and “its fair market value (measured by the fair market value of the asset received in this case)” should be recognized as a loss.

    Florida:
    AUD: 73, 81! Thank you Lord!
    BEC: 73, 77! Thank you Lord! and WTB
    REG: 71, 82! Thank you Lord! and A71
    FAR: 72, 78! Thank you God and my Mommy in Heaven!

    CPA Excel, Ninja Notes & Audio, Wiley Test Bank, CPAreviewforfree

    #517760

    Yes, I believe so which is the same thing I think Wiley is saying below in a different way:

    The difference between the carrying amount of the asset surrendered and “its fair market value (measured by the fair market value of the asset received in this case)” should be recognized as a loss.

    Florida:
    AUD: 73, 81! Thank you Lord!
    BEC: 73, 77! Thank you Lord! and WTB
    REG: 71, 82! Thank you Lord! and A71
    FAR: 72, 78! Thank you God and my Mommy in Heaven!

    CPA Excel, Ninja Notes & Audio, Wiley Test Bank, CPAreviewforfree

    #517733
    Anonymous
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    I use both becker & wiley and this works for me every time:

    gain = fmv of asset given up – bv of asset given up

    if the fmv of asset given up isn't given, use the fmv of the asset received

    if both aren't given, then you'd use the bv to record the exchanged asset (the one you received)-but no gain would be recorded and it'll just go to acc dep.

    #517762
    Anonymous
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    I use both becker & wiley and this works for me every time:

    gain = fmv of asset given up – bv of asset given up

    if the fmv of asset given up isn't given, use the fmv of the asset received

    if both aren't given, then you'd use the bv to record the exchanged asset (the one you received)-but no gain would be recorded and it'll just go to acc dep.

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