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February 27, 2012 at 1:08 pm #167231
hili783
MemberI work for PwC and it is my first week working for them. I work from 8 am till 6 pm Monday to Friday.it takes about an 45 mins to drive from home to work and the same time going back home, so in total around 12 hours are out of my control. I talked to my boss about releasing me early like around 3 or 4 pm so I could have enough time to study, but he refused, so I asked him if I can study, but he also refused because I will have so much work and I won’t be able to study.
PLEASE EVERYONE, I need you advise, I am going to have my FAR exam in May and I am wondering if I should leave PwC and just get all my free time for studying, or I should keep working and give a try if I can handle both CPA and work.
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February 29, 2012 at 4:33 am #338272
Laura
ParticipantI have so much I want to say to this thread… first off, I know that at EY they are not allowed to sit for the exam during busy season….and there is a reason for it. Also I'm sure you get an outrageous amount of vacation time…use that time and study!!! Do not go on a vacation somewhere because your job is so stressful etc. There will be plenty of vacations after you get your CPA.
Secondly, it doesn't matter if you are single, married, have kids, don't have kids, a job, a cat, a mouse, or a house….everyone has some sort of hang up…keeping coming here for inspiration, motivation and most of all for the wonderful cyber friends to commiserate/celebrate with; if anyone understands what is going on with this exam it is fellow candidates!!
REG-80, 77, 77
BEC-67, 68, 71, 67, 71, 74, 71, 74, 72, 77
FAR- 72, 65,67, 53, 75 (truth be known the 53 was with 4 hours of studying)
AUD-58, 62, 72, 74, 74, 75
took 5 years but I'm DONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!February 29, 2012 at 5:06 am #338273Anonymous
InactiveKeeptrying, this is in response to your comment “keep coming here for inspiration, motivation and most of all for the wonderful cyber friends to commiserate/celebrate with; if anyone understands what is going on with this exam it is fellow candidates!!”. I have been viewing comments here since the summer of 2011 for inspiration and motivation. As a cpa candidate, I found the support crucial for me. I minimize speaking about my experience or discussing the material to anyone I know because they lack the level of understanding. The cyber support helps me deal with the the issues we face as candidates. Recently, I found out that I did not pass BEC. I am new to this forum (new registrant) and already received some encouraging responses for my recent disappointment.
February 29, 2012 at 5:27 am #338274Minimorty
Participant@Maverick – Welcome to the boards. Make sure you stay away from that “Mini” guy. I hear he's a bad apple.
February 29, 2012 at 5:35 am #338275Anonymous
InactiveThanks…you mean minimighty? His posts can be quite entertaining.
February 29, 2012 at 5:44 am #338276Anonymous
InactiveHaha not as bad as that BaseballCPA guy…what a douche!
February 29, 2012 at 6:00 am #338277Mandagrl
ParticipantMaverick, I will offer you more words of encouragement…I just found out yesterday that I passed BEC on my FOURTH attempt. So trust me it can be done, and I've seen many people on here that have to take it more times than that. Every single time I took it, I was borderline which meant I had to wait an extra week to get my score. That is 4 solid weeks of my life spent in turmoil. By the fourth time I took the test I went into with absolutely no confidence and feeling completely defeated before I even stepped foot into the testing center. When I checked my score yesterday, I was fully expecting to see another fail, even though I felt good about the test when I took it. When I saw the passing score I just broke down in tears of joy and disbelief and my prior failures became a distant memory. You will get there, just don't give up. That is the best advice I have gotten during this is “Don't give up.”
As far as the topic on this thread. I see absolutely no problem in asking your employer for time off to study. And I don't see anything wrong with you considering quitting because of it. I'm not sure if I would actually go through with it, but it all depends on what your other options are I guess. I have been given time off to study for each of the nine tests I have had to take, including the one I take tomorrow. I work at a tax firm and it is definitely busy season right now. I went into my bosses office on Thursday last week and said, hey I can postpone this test until after the deadline and having it hanging over my head the whole time or I can really cram these next few days and get it taken care of now. I asked to not work this weekend, work no extra hours and leave early on Monday and Tuesday. My boss' response was “Take whatever time you need to get this over with.” I have an AWESOME boss, I will tell you that, but there is also a reason behind her “madness.” We are a smaller firm (although the largest I have worked at) with about 15 people. Our philosophy is that we are a team. The team needs me to be a CPA, so others will gladly step in and take on some of my workload. Its just how we operate.
REG 78 Lost credit, retake 2/29, Waiting
AUD 72,75
FAR 79
BEC 66,73,74, 76February 29, 2012 at 9:19 am #338278Anonymous
InactiveFunny thing is after posting my comment, I thought using the phrase “self-righteous” my tone may have been a bit too confrontational. But based on many of the responses, I guess I was right. nmsims gave a perfectly reasonable response, yet he gets mostly patronizing nonsense in return.
“And you would be upset if your company didn't want you studying on their dime? Lol. You seem like the person who would have the company pay for your exams, let you study on their time, sign off on your experience, and then be screwed over by you showing no loyalty whatsoever and leaving right away. I could be wrong, but that's how your post came off to me.”
I think this is how my post came off to you because I didn’t bow down to people with children.
No, I am not that ‘type of person’, whatever that means. I think loyalty works both ways. The company I left demanded I work ridiculous hours and was dishonest about this up front, I never had time off, including missing a nephew’s important event (yes, even us unmarried folks have family members too) despite making it clear I had to leave at a certain time. As I alluded to earlier, in my opinion this is only acceptable if there is a reward in return, and one of those would be having PWC on a resume. I had the choice to either stay or find another job, and I found another job. I am very fortunate that my current boss allows me to study if my work is done, I understand that is unique and am very thankful for it.
Anyway, I have older siblings with kids and fortunately they don’t act like some of you. They’ve gone on to pass the bar, medical boards, etcetera and don’t act like they’ve created a cold fusion machine just because they did so while having children. They’re just supportive and understanding. And having an understanding gf who is supportive in every way (particularly emotionally) makes me wonder how I could do this if I were single. I am very grateful for her and for my boss and the company that I work for. I think having a family certainly has it’s challenges, but there are a variety of dynamics at play that makes it a challenge no matter what.
That is all. But to all of you who want to continue to put yourself on a pedestal because you have a couple of kids, I strongly encourage you watch the Family Guy episode where Brian founds out that he has a kid. This scene in particular:
Peter Griffin: Hey Brian what would you do if Dylan was in a car wreck?
Brian Griffin: Oh my God. Oh my God. I don't even want to think about. No. Knock on wood. Knock on wood, Knock on wood.
Glen Quagmire: I can imagine that'd be pretty tough.
Brian Griffin: No, no, no Quagmire. Until you have a child. Until you have a child you can't possibly understand.
Joe Swanson: Peter, your dog is giving me diabetes.
That is you, you are Brian.
February 29, 2012 at 11:50 am #338279yankeeaccountant
ParticipantYikes, this seems to be a “hot ” thread. I have to agree with Keeptrying. Everybody has their own hardship while sitting for this exam, it is what makes this experience different for all. We all have a choice as to when we decided to embark on this journey.
I started going back to school for accounting hours when 45 ( two older boys) and then started sitting for the exam when I was 47. What I wouldn't give to have done this when I was younger. Not so much for the single/married aspect, as much as the way my brain works now versus back then.
All in all, just preparing and sitting for this exam is something to be proud of.
February 29, 2012 at 4:41 pm #338280Minimorty
Participant@cory – “But to all of you who want to continue to put yourself on a pedestal because you have a couple of kids….”
It has nothing to do with this. As I've said a few times, people passing the exam with a spouse and kids are no “better” than people who do it single. All else being equal, it's just HARDER. How can you possibly disagree with this statement?
February 29, 2012 at 4:48 pm #338281Kesecker87
MemberMarried with Kids here- as a mother, working full time – it is very difficult. However, if there is a will there is a way.
FAR 61, 82! ( 11/9/12)
AUD 67, (4/19/13) WAITING!!February 29, 2012 at 4:58 pm #338282mla1169
ParticipantMini let it go. Hardly worth even trying to explain. 😉 Yeah, a pedestal…..thats it.
FAR- 77
AUD -49, 71, 84
REG -56,75!
BEC -75Massachusetts CPA (non reporting) since 3/12.
February 29, 2012 at 6:19 pm #338283Anonymous
InactiveSo . . . .@mini, does YOUR boss know just how much time you spend on this forum <grin>?
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Regarding study time, it can depend how you phrase it, and sometimes it's better not to ask but rather simply to act as and expect to be treated as a professional.
For example, someone walks into your cube/office. Instead of asking if you can study or continue studying, or saying you're studying for the CPA, say “I'm in the middle of a an IFRS update (or a session on inventory costing methods, or whatever). Can I get back to you in 20 minutes?”
Or saying, “Can we move that meeting to this afternoon? I have a schedule conflict,” rather than “I have to take my kid to the orthodontist.” Or, “Sorry, I'm booked at 2:00. Can I catch you at 4:00?” instead of “I had hoped to take some time this afternoon to do MCQs.”
One of the best is simply “I have an appointment at 1:00. I'll be back by 2:00.” Usually nobody questions an appointment, which sounds serious and professional. They 1) are afraid to ask and hear TMI about your medical condition or 2) might even start wondering if you're talking to a headhunter.
It goes without saying that you need to be perceived as a professional — a productive employee — and deliver on that perception.
February 29, 2012 at 6:21 pm #338284Minimorty
Participantlol @diane. Fortunately, I am paid on production and my production numbers are generally off the charts so they give me a lot of flexibility.
February 29, 2012 at 6:27 pm #338285jeff
KeymasterFebruary 29, 2012 at 6:36 pm #338286mla1169
ParticipantJeff, do you want me to sucker punch your boss in the jaw? 🙂
FAR- 77
AUD -49, 71, 84
REG -56,75!
BEC -75Massachusetts CPA (non reporting) since 3/12.
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