Ask the NINJAs – 8 Years and Still Not a CPA

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  • #358500
    nearly_there
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    That man will party like like he never partied before when he finally gets it.

    FAR - 85 November 2011
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    #358501
    Anonymous
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    I know this is not what anyone wants to hear, but I have to say it. That person has not been studying properly for 8 years. If you keep changing your study habits after a failed attempt and work even harder, you should be able to pass. This is not a test of how smart you are. It's a test of endurance and determination.

    I've seen many kids play some of the hardest video games out there. Some are near impossible to beat, yet they still beat the game. Why? Because they love playing video games and are willing to play for hours until they finally beat it. And most of all, they want to beat the game so badly that they will do whatever it takes. The same with the CPA exam. You need that same kind of determination in order to pass this exam. You need to want to pass the exam the same way you want to beat a video game. You have to be addicted to studying!

    #358502
    jeff
    Keymaster

    I thought I covered that in question #1?

    It's Sara … it's a female btw 🙂

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

    #358503
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I literally shake of excitement every time I start a study session 😀

    #358504
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Oops! Sorry. My post has been edited. nearly_there's post threw me off.

    #358505
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I don't necessarily see a correlation between intelligence and passing the CPA exam. I consider myself smart, but I know I am not the smartest guy out there…and I have known very smart people who have struggled with the exam mightily. First, the CPA exam is an exercise in endurance…you literally have to be so disciplined for long periods (extending into years, not just months for some people), and not let failures discourage you. Second, the exam is kind of a mindf**k game – I found that the material was not super-advanced accounting (classes in college on corporate taxation, consolidated financial statements, etc. seemed much more detailed), but the questions are rife with land mines just waiting to trip you up. You have to be so diligent in pouring over the words in the question to make sure you don't miss something. Third, you have to bring a little swagger with you into the testing center, and have to get into the mindset in which you forget the last question as soon as you answered it; and not think about whether you got it right or wrong because that could affect how you do on the next questions…dwelling on in-exam mistakes can make you jumpy, tentative, or cause you to second-guess yourself.

    The good news is that the individual in the blog entry probably knows the material well; the second phase is just learning how to really negotiate the exam itself. Good luck; keep your spirits up.

    #358506
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @CPATerminator- Atta, boy! And that's why you are going to pass REG in August!!

    @chromatic- You are right. In order to get these questions right, there are two things you have to do….

    1) Know the concept

    2) Avoid the tricks.

    You can be very smart and know the concepts real well, but if you are not aware of the tricks that the AICPA likes pull, then you will fail miserably. That is why I always say… go over the topics extensively and practice lots of questions. Going over the topics will help you achieve #1. And doing practice questions will help you achieve #2. The more you do, the better.

    #358507
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I see your points about the CPA exam not being a test of intelligence, but instead, just a test of your endurance for studying. However, your argument is a two-edged sword. If so-called “unintelligent” people can pass the CPA exam simply through hardwork, then it likely means if you've been studying for the CPA exam for over 8 years [eg hardwork] then something is really wrong…

    #358508
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    you have to be able to think in a very abstract manner in order to pass the CPA exam, a sure sign of intelligence if i do say so myself

    #358509
    sbruce810
    Participant

    dumguy_cpa, I sorry to inform you that there is nothing remotely abstract about the CPA Exam. We have to study a set of rules and apply said rules to a situation. If you want abstract look up the Riemann Hypothesis.

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    #358510
    Anonymous
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    haha i see, i guess the angle i see it from is that without on-field experience, (most recent college grads and cpa test takers), much of the material is just words and numbers. it is only theoretical material until actually having the opportunity to carry out specific tasks while working.

    per this definiton: abstract – Existing in thought or as an idea but not having a physical or concrete existence.

    its impossible to say that you don't need to be smart in order to do well with the CPA exam, some people pass it all on their first attempt, with just a few months or even weeks between sections. its definitely more challenging for some than others.

    #358511
    jeff
    Keymaster

    It's abstract until you work the MCQs…don't hijack my thread 😀

    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

    #358512
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    cardinalhoya – I understand what you are saying and intelligence is a big part of it, but I still think a major component is the mental game. I think most people on the A71 forums have the intelligence. From what I have read on the forums, the majority of people understand fairly well the bulk of the CPA exam material – maybe weaker in some areas than others, but overall, they have been exposed to this in college coursework. Where the mental game comes into play is what some people think is the “some are good at taking tests, some are struggle a bit” factor. If you struggle at taking tests, you will have to work that much harder at dealing with the tricks on the CPA exam.

    Before I passed the CPA exam, I took CAS exam 1 (actuarial) and found the material excruciatingly difficult to grasp – I wore myself out and just did not have the energy to continue on and take the next eight exams. It was a pretty humbling experience for me…I definitely learned the limits of my intelligence. That said, I would recommend to people taking the CPA exam to not give up.

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