Launching Your Own Practice - Page 3

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  • #161518
    T-rex
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    Are any of y’all interested in running your own CPA show at some point? I know I am. My days as an employee are numbered. I’m simply not employee material.

    I’ll be licensed in CA once I pass the exam, but because I live in TX, I’ll need to get licensed here in order to practice here. The TX requirements differ substantially from those of CA, so it may take me awhile to get reciprocity in TX. In the interim, I figure I can start a side bookkeeping business since I don’t need a CPA license for that. I’ll fire it up once I’m certain that I’ve passed the exam. I actually had a small bookkeeping business long ago, so I have some idea of what I need to do.

    If anyone else is interested in starting his or her own CPA practice or bookkeeping business, maybe we can exchange ideas here on how to round up clients, how much to charge them, how to protect client information, what the best software programs are, etc.

    AUD - 95, BEC - 85
    REG - 85, Rawrrrrrr FAR - 88
    Used Becker for all sections.
    CA candidate not residing in CA

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  • #430088
    jelly
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    Interesting thread so far, keep it going!

    My experiences so far – a bit NY-biased b/c of state laws:

    I incorporated in NY in May this year, b/c I foresaw (is that a word?) a worker classification problem. I could easily sit on the fence as a 1099 or W2 for one of the places I do work for, so I decided to just incorporate, i.e. have the client 1099 me and then I W2 myself. (I've seen how messy worker classification fights can be, and how expensive as well)

    I basically bill myself an hourly rate against what I receive (“Officer's Salary”), and the excess goes to other expenses, like payroll taxes and professional liability insurance. I also don't itemize on my personal income returns; I put membership fees and other expenses against the company, i.e. AICPA & state society annual dues, state licensing fees, financial news subscriptions, new printer & laptop, payroll & tax software, office supplies, etc.

    I incorporated as an “Inc” instead of a sole proprietorship b/c of the liability issues, and b/c single-person-LLCs are disregarded IRS entities and taxed as sole proprietors. LLCs also have a somewhat pricey, 6-week advertising requirement to be set up in NY. I skipped the professional incorporation, which requires extra licensing registration for audit firms, b/c I'm a small fry doing relatively low-risk stuff at the moment.

    Other things to keep track of and research for your state(s):

    1) If you incorporate, and essentially become an officer of a corporation or an LLC partner/member, what kind of impact does this have on collecting unemployment if you are laid off from your primary job? What kind of impact does a side job have on collecting unemployment from your primary employer, i.e. would your state consider you self-employed and ineligible? I'm assuming this is all sidework, that we're hoping to grow into full-time.

    2) Does your state, or your client, require you to carry worker's compensation insurance, just in general, or on-site? This can get pricey, either through the state's program or thru private carriers.

    3) I researched incorporation in about 4-5 nearby states, including Delaware. Some states don't have corporate income taxes, or might have a flat rate tax, but might have yearly reporting fees, or yearly business entity renewal fees. If you incorporate in one state, you may need to apply for a business license as a foreign entity to do business in another state (and possibly subject to the same incorporation startup fees). Keep in mind there's likely reporting required in both states as well then, as a subsidiary or affiliate. And watch out for sales tax nexus issues too…

    CalCPASoon:

    Check out how your state has historically, or lately, treated some of those professions you've described – hair stylists, craft fair sellers. I was recently approached about something similar, and some research yielded a very gray tax area classified under “booth renters.” (These would also include tattoo shops and spas). All have gotten more IRS and state scrutiny lately for worker classification reasons, where these agencies believe that it's a way for owners to dodge payroll taxes, i.e. if I rent a chair to an artist and collect some of their revenue, are they an independent contractor or a W-2?

    Couldn't pass again!

    #430089
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Hi, all. I am new to this forum and have a long way to go to become a CPA (I just took AUG the last day of August). I am interested in starting a part-time bookkeeping/CPA business as well. I have a full time job which I would like to stick to. I wonder how people like me can find time to meet clients and respond to their needs when they have questions/issues? I have a regular work hour from 9-5.

    #430090
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks for the great info Jelly! I hadn't even considered the unemployment issues, and didn't know about the special tax problems associated with “booth renters'.

    @CPA-Convertible

    I assume if I'm doing personal income tax returns that my clients have a regular 9-5 job just like I do, so they would only be available to meet or ask questions outside those hours too. If you are doing small business taxes, probably your clients know that it is a side business for you and are willing to work with you on meeting after 5 or on weekends. If not, then they would probably seek out someone else who had more day-time availability.

    #430091
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks CalCPAsoon

    I think I am more interested in bookeeping and other services. I prefer to do something monthly to have a steady monthly income instead seasonal like tax prep. Besides, tax is just not my cup of tea. I had hard time studying and passing the corp taxation at school……(I plan to take REG at last). I don't mind working at evenings or weekends.

    #430092
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I think if you can connect remotely to your client's accounting system (assuming they have this capability, or maybe you are able to set it up for them), then there is really no reason why you couldn't work out a system where they send you their documents for data entry, and you make all the journal entries, reconcile the transactions, and prepare monthly reports.

    #430093
    HazeEastwood
    Participant

    I have seriously considered this since I am tired of working for the man. I would like to speciallize in providing accounting services to small manufacturing companies who may not be able to afford a full time Controller. I am not sure who realistic this is but it was my initial thought since I have extensive knowledge in manufacturing I wouldn't be in an area unfamiliar. The problem is I have no idea how to drum up the business. Also, I will be getting my CPA designation in TN initially but I live in GA. I don't know how that would work.

    FAR-81
    BEC-84
    AUD-91
    REG-89

    #430094
    T-rex
    Participant

    Hey, Gang,

    There is an article in the Sep. 2011 edition of the Journal of Accountancy that covers some of the different tax software available, including ease of use, price, and user likes and dislikes. It's called “2011 Tax Software Survey,” and you can read it here:

    https://www.journalofaccountancy.com/Issues/2011/Sep/20114147.htm

    AUD - 95, BEC - 85
    REG - 85, Rawrrrrrr FAR - 88
    Used Becker for all sections.
    CA candidate not residing in CA

    #430095
    T-rex
    Participant

    @Haze,

    I think that the best ways to drum up business are to:

    Walk in and introduce yourself and deliver your business card and a brochure (including a picture of yourself) that describes what services you offer, or

    Call up the owner of the business, introducing yourself and offering to treat him or her to lunch to discuss how you may be able to help his or her business

    Making a personal connection with the owner is important.

    I don't know much about GA's requirements but if they are similar to those of TN, you shouldn't have any trouble applying for and getting reciprocity with GA. Do you know whether the requirements for the two states are similar?

    AUD - 95, BEC - 85
    REG - 85, Rawrrrrrr FAR - 88
    Used Becker for all sections.
    CA candidate not residing in CA

    #430096
    T-rex
    Participant

    @jelly,

    Thanks for all of the great info!

    AUD - 95, BEC - 85
    REG - 85, Rawrrrrrr FAR - 88
    Used Becker for all sections.
    CA candidate not residing in CA

    #430097
    HazeEastwood
    Participant

    T-rex, GA would require that I take four more classes to get certified. I am so sick of school I don't know what to do. I'd have to take the classes at a later point. As for walkikng in, I got to be real. My interpersonal skills aren't the best and my salesman skills are absolutely terrible. )-: so I don't know if that would work so well for me.

    FAR-81
    BEC-84
    AUD-91
    REG-89

    #430098
    T-rex
    Participant

    @Haze,

    I'm in the same boat. I need four more classes (I think), and I have zero desire to go back to school. You might want to call up the legal department of the GA state board to ask if it has an education exemption for CPAs who have at least 3 years of accounting experience (within the last 10 years) under a CPA. TX has such an exemption.

    I'll share some other marketing ideas I have with you later on.

    AUD - 95, BEC - 85
    REG - 85, Rawrrrrrr FAR - 88
    Used Becker for all sections.
    CA candidate not residing in CA

    #430099
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Whats the advantage of getting licensed in a different state than the one you are trying to work in? It sounds like you would still have to meet the requirements of your state anyway, so why not just get licensed in your state in the first place? Can you still call yourself a CPA in your state if you aren't licensed in that state?

    #430100
    HazeEastwood
    Participant

    CalCPASoon, in my case I work in corporate america. Corp america doesn't care what state you have a C.P.A license in as long as you got it. So if you don't plan to practice public accounting then it maybe beneficial to get it in a state where the requirements are less stringent

    FAR-81
    BEC-84
    AUD-91
    REG-89

    #430101
    T-rex
    Participant

    @CalSoon,

    I'm from CA and went to school there. I now reside in TX. I didn't meet the TX requirements to sit for the exam, but I did meet the CA ones, so I figured I'd get licensed in CA first, and then deal with the TX reciprocity mess. My alternative was spending another year in school and then applying to sit for the TX exam. The exam is the toughest part of this process, so I wanted to get it out of the way as soon as possible. In summary, the only advantage for me becoming licensed in CA is that I am able to sit for the exam sooner than in TX.

    AUD - 95, BEC - 85
    REG - 85, Rawrrrrrr FAR - 88
    Used Becker for all sections.
    CA candidate not residing in CA

    #430102
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    any update on the business, T-Rex?

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