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March 18, 2016 at 4:43 am #200896
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June 22, 2016 at 5:08 pm #766914
mckan514wParticipantCan anyone explain to me in plain english the difference between capital lease, direct lease and sales lease? they all seem so similar I am having a hard time with the nuances… Thanks
And user2701 for what its worth I go through the MCQ's trying to not only figure out why i got a question wrong- but if I got it right what made the other answers wrong- I also do like aa said and write everything down as if I am explaining it to someone else.
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2June 22, 2016 at 5:23 pm #766915
Spartans92ParticipantMckan, thats BEC? Sounds like some FAR BS to me LOL. Capital lease is the Transfer title, bargain purchase option, 75% of economic life, and 90% of PV lease payment. Im sure u r familiar with. Sales lease is where u recognized profit upon the inception of lease? I guess its better for others to chime in. I dont recall anything 🙁
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June 22, 2016 at 5:32 pm #766916
aatouralParticipantUser2701 post any questions you have here. Sometimes an explanaiton from us here is more “plain english” that the responses that come with the review materials.
mckan514w – I do the same process of elimination prior deciding on an answer and it does help.
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REG - TBSJune 22, 2016 at 5:44 pm #766917
mckan514wParticipantlol THANKS Spartan (adding in sarcasm) ha ha ha- yes it does sound more like FAR doesn't it??? no apparently sales leases also go by the TT BPO 75/90 as well- got a question wrong because it sounded like a cap lease and it was a sales lease- when reading the differences between the three they all sound exactly the same to me…. ha ha ha ha… have I mentioned before how much I LOOOOOOVE BEC??????? I do I love it so!
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2June 23, 2016 at 8:15 am #766918
AnonymousInactiveI have trouble understanding joint product costing. Please help.
Can anyone explain this problem and solution better?
Thanks guys!Kode Co. manufactures a major product that gives rise to a by-product called May. May's only separable cost is a $1 selling cost when a unit is sold for $4. Kode accounts for May's sales by deducting the $3 net amount from the cost of goods sold of the major product. There are no inventories. If Kode were to change its method of accounting for May from a by-product to a joint product, what would be the effect on Kode's overall gross margin?
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Gross margin increases by $3 for each unit of May sold.b.
Gross margin increases by $4 for each unit of May sold.c.
Gross margin increases by $1 for each unit of May sold.d.
No effect.Explanation
Choice “c” is correct. Changing the accounting from by-product to joint product changes the computation of gross margin because the $1 selling cost is treated differently under each method. Using the by-product method, the $1 selling expense is netted against the $4 selling price to arrive at a $3 deduction from cost of goods sold. Since gross margin is calculated as sales less cost of goods sold, the $1 does flow into the gross margin amount using this method. Using the joint product method, the $1 cost would be a selling expense, which is not included in the calculation of gross margin. Instead, selling expenses are deducted from gross margin (after it is computed) to arrive at net income. Although the total net income is the same under both methods, the joint product method results in an increased gross margin of $1 per unit of May sold.
Choice “d” is incorrect. The $1 selling expense would be deducted from gross margin using the joint product method.
Choice “a” is incorrect. The $4 sales price is included in the calculation of gross margin under both methods.
Choice “b” is incorrect. The $4 sales price is included in calculation of gross margin under both methods
June 23, 2016 at 2:39 pm #766919
user2701ParticipantCan someone repost COSO extra read link.It was given earlier, but I do not recollect under which topic.
Also post if there are any such extra read for other BeC topics as well.
BEC- 43(Feb'16), Retake-June 10, (Wiley text book/WQB/NINJA MCQ)
REG- TBD
FAR- TBD
AUD- TBDJune 23, 2016 at 2:51 pm #766920
mckan514wParticipantAmor D- the explanation kind of left out a major point- at least from my understanding- from my understanding with a by-product the revenue from the by-product is not included in total revenue but rather the net profit is taken out of COGS- this is because the product was not one you intentionally sold but rather arose out of making the original product.
However if they are joint products they were meant to be both produced and sold together so the revenue is included in total revenue the COGS remains the same and the selling cost is added to the selling cost of the original product.
So for example you make bowls which you sell for $10 with COGS of $5 and Operational Cost of $2. Additionally out of production comes a shot-glass that you then sell for $4 with a selling cost of $1
As a by product you would have
Revenues 10
COGS 2 (5-3)
Gross Profit =8
Operational Expense 2
Net Income 6As a Joint Product you would have
Revenues 14
COGS 5
Gross Profit=9
Operation Expense 3 (2+1)
Net Income =6So by changing to Joint Product your Gross Profit would increase by $1
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2June 23, 2016 at 2:53 pm #766921
mckan514wParticipant@User I don't remember that link but I do have this one bookmarked that I plan on reading “one day real soon” ha ha ha
https://www.coso.org/documents/2014-2-10-COSO%20Thought%20Paper.pdf
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2June 23, 2016 at 2:55 pm #766922
mckan514wParticipantAlso guys to answer my own question above in case it helps anyone else- regarding leases Sales lease and Direct Finance Lease are both types of Operation Leases whereas from what I can tell involve property rather than just equipment– Sales lease there is a profit to the lessor as well as interest revenue on the transaction as FMV exceeds Carry and Direct there is no profit / loss on the transaction only interest revenue to lessor and FMV=Carry. Hope that helps someone else out!
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2June 23, 2016 at 2:56 pm #766923
user2701ParticipantThanks buddy.
Any other link other than this for related topics of BEC..do post it here
BEC- 43(Feb'16), Retake-June 10, (Wiley text book/WQB/NINJA MCQ)
REG- TBD
FAR- TBD
AUD- TBDJune 23, 2016 at 2:57 pm #766924
AnonymousInactiveThank you VERY MUCH, @Mckan514w!
That makes a lot more sense.June 23, 2016 at 3:03 pm #766925
mckan514wParticipantNo problem Amor- I read and re-read that explanation for about 5 mins trying to figure it out- despite getting the question right then it hit me what was missing from it… ha ha ha BEC is seriously driving me insane!
user- will do- but in all honesty I only try to find extra reading when I am completely lost… you might be “reading too much” and not practicing enough… you can read all the material in the world but if you are not familiar with how they form the questions or put the concepts into action you will be doomed.
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
AUD- 9/2June 23, 2016 at 3:28 pm #766926
aatouralParticipant@user2701 here you can look at all the links they have on COSO.
https://www.coso.org/guidance.htm
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FAR - TBS
REG - TBSJune 23, 2016 at 5:45 pm #766927
AnonymousInactiveMOH INCURRED ! MOH APPLIED
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$125,000…………..!………..$113,000
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$12,000 Underapplied
===========================The problem says that the $12,000 underapplied would normally be closed out to COGS unless considered material and then it would be allocated pro rata to the ending balances of WIP, FG, and COGS.
If it's immaterial, JEs would be:
DR WIP $6,000
DR FG $6,000
CR COGS $12,000Is that correct?
What would be the JE if it were material?
June 23, 2016 at 7:45 pm #766928
mckan514wParticipantHow do you know when to subtract the float and underprice when finding the cost of common? it seems like some questions the answer doesn't subtract it out and some answers it does…
and they ask me why I drink...
FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
BEC- 8/11
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