BEC Study Group Q2 2016 - Page 60

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  • #766914
    mckan514w
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    Can anyone explain to me in plain english the difference between capital lease, direct lease and sales lease? they all seem so similar I am having a hard time with the nuances… Thanks

    And user2701 for what its worth I go through the MCQ's trying to not only figure out why i got a question wrong- but if I got it right what made the other answers wrong- I also do like aa said and write everything down as if I am explaining it to someone else.

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
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    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #766915
    Spartans92
    Participant

    Mckan, thats BEC? Sounds like some FAR BS to me LOL. Capital lease is the Transfer title, bargain purchase option, 75% of economic life, and 90% of PV lease payment. Im sure u r familiar with. Sales lease is where u recognized profit upon the inception of lease? I guess its better for others to chime in. I dont recall anything 🙁

    BEC- PASS

    #766916
    aatoural
    Participant

    User2701 post any questions you have here. Sometimes an explanaiton from us here is more “plain english” that the responses that come with the review materials.

    mckan514w – I do the same process of elimination prior deciding on an answer and it does help.

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    #766917
    mckan514w
    Participant

    lol THANKS Spartan (adding in sarcasm) ha ha ha- yes it does sound more like FAR doesn't it??? no apparently sales leases also go by the TT BPO 75/90 as well- got a question wrong because it sounded like a cap lease and it was a sales lease- when reading the differences between the three they all sound exactly the same to me…. ha ha ha ha… have I mentioned before how much I LOOOOOOVE BEC??????? I do I love it so!

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #766918
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I have trouble understanding joint product costing. Please help.
    Can anyone explain this problem and solution better?
    Thanks guys!

    Kode Co. manufactures a major product that gives rise to a by-product called May. May's only separable cost is a $1 selling cost when a unit is sold for $4. Kode accounts for May's sales by deducting the $3 net amount from the cost of goods sold of the major product. There are no inventories. If Kode were to change its method of accounting for May from a by-product to a joint product, what would be the effect on Kode's overall gross margin?

    a.
    Gross margin increases by $3 for each unit of May sold.

    b.
    Gross margin increases by $4 for each unit of May sold.

    c.
    Gross margin increases by $1 for each unit of May sold.

    d.
    No effect.

    Explanation

    Choice “c” is correct. Changing the accounting from by-product to joint product changes the computation of gross margin because the $1 selling cost is treated differently under each method. Using the by-product method, the $1 selling expense is netted against the $4 selling price to arrive at a $3 deduction from cost of goods sold. Since gross margin is calculated as sales less cost of goods sold, the $1 does flow into the gross margin amount using this method. Using the joint product method, the $1 cost would be a selling expense, which is not included in the calculation of gross margin. Instead, selling expenses are deducted from gross margin (after it is computed) to arrive at net income. Although the total net income is the same under both methods, the joint product method results in an increased gross margin of $1 per unit of May sold.

    Choice “d” is incorrect. The $1 selling expense would be deducted from gross margin using the joint product method.

    Choice “a” is incorrect. The $4 sales price is included in the calculation of gross margin under both methods.

    Choice “b” is incorrect. The $4 sales price is included in calculation of gross margin under both methods

    #766919
    user2701
    Participant

    Can someone repost COSO extra read link.It was given earlier, but I do not recollect under which topic.

    Also post if there are any such extra read for other BeC topics as well.

    BEC- 43(Feb'16), Retake-June 10, (Wiley text book/WQB/NINJA MCQ)
    REG- TBD
    FAR- TBD
    AUD- TBD

    #766920
    mckan514w
    Participant

    Amor D- the explanation kind of left out a major point- at least from my understanding- from my understanding with a by-product the revenue from the by-product is not included in total revenue but rather the net profit is taken out of COGS- this is because the product was not one you intentionally sold but rather arose out of making the original product.

    However if they are joint products they were meant to be both produced and sold together so the revenue is included in total revenue the COGS remains the same and the selling cost is added to the selling cost of the original product.

    So for example you make bowls which you sell for $10 with COGS of $5 and Operational Cost of $2. Additionally out of production comes a shot-glass that you then sell for $4 with a selling cost of $1

    As a by product you would have
    Revenues 10
    COGS 2 (5-3)
    Gross Profit =8
    Operational Expense 2
    Net Income 6

    As a Joint Product you would have
    Revenues 14
    COGS 5
    Gross Profit=9
    Operation Expense 3 (2+1)
    Net Income =6

    So by changing to Joint Product your Gross Profit would increase by $1

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #766921
    mckan514w
    Participant

    @User I don't remember that link but I do have this one bookmarked that I plan on reading “one day real soon” ha ha ha

    https://www.coso.org/documents/2014-2-10-COSO%20Thought%20Paper.pdf

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #766922
    mckan514w
    Participant

    Also guys to answer my own question above in case it helps anyone else- regarding leases Sales lease and Direct Finance Lease are both types of Operation Leases whereas from what I can tell involve property rather than just equipment– Sales lease there is a profit to the lessor as well as interest revenue on the transaction as FMV exceeds Carry and Direct there is no profit / loss on the transaction only interest revenue to lessor and FMV=Carry. Hope that helps someone else out!

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #766923
    user2701
    Participant

    Thanks buddy.

    Any other link other than this for related topics of BEC..do post it here

    BEC- 43(Feb'16), Retake-June 10, (Wiley text book/WQB/NINJA MCQ)
    REG- TBD
    FAR- TBD
    AUD- TBD

    #766924
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thank you VERY MUCH, @Mckan514w!
    That makes a lot more sense.

    #766925
    mckan514w
    Participant

    No problem Amor- I read and re-read that explanation for about 5 mins trying to figure it out- despite getting the question right then it hit me what was missing from it… ha ha ha BEC is seriously driving me insane!

    user- will do- but in all honesty I only try to find extra reading when I am completely lost… you might be “reading too much” and not practicing enough… you can read all the material in the world but if you are not familiar with how they form the questions or put the concepts into action you will be doomed.

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

    #766926
    aatoural
    Participant

    @user2701 here you can look at all the links they have on COSO.

    https://www.coso.org/guidance.htm

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    #766927
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    MOH INCURRED ! MOH APPLIED
    ————————————————
    $125,000…………..!………..$113,000
    ———————————————–
    $12,000 Underapplied
    ===========================

    The problem says that the $12,000 underapplied would normally be closed out to COGS unless considered material and then it would be allocated pro rata to the ending balances of WIP, FG, and COGS.

    If it's immaterial, JEs would be:
    DR WIP $6,000
    DR FG $6,000
    CR COGS $12,000

    Is that correct?

    What would be the JE if it were material?

    #766928
    mckan514w
    Participant

    How do you know when to subtract the float and underprice when finding the cost of common? it seems like some questions the answer doesn't subtract it out and some answers it does…

    and they ask me why I drink...

    FAR- 61-next time I'll ask for lube instead of a calculator
    REG-75- Never been so happy to see such a low grade
    BEC- 8/11
    AUD- 9/2

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