BEC Study Group October November 2017 - Page 32

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  • #1673179
    rencpa
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    Jen, as you, I am studying, but I take breaks more often (just feel MORE tired). I tried to share my mnemonics and I thought that I messed up because I am a visual person (I write things a certain way, I look and remember). Typing is not the same (in my case) Of cure, one needs to understand the theory behind the mnemonics.

    Lucky you! I have been complaining to my husband about playing games while I study! He is teasing me 🙂 None of us, feels like changing the room (at least now). I like to study in the library. Nobody bothers me there! May go this weekend.

    I want to start reviewing after Monday, the latest Tuesday! Hope to accomplish my goal. Back to studying!

    #1673185
    IwannabeaCPA2017
    Participant

    Hey all, I'm just scoping out this section in case I have to retake.. Anyone took the exam recently that could share their experience? I took it under the old one and passed 1st try with a perfect score (75), I'm mainly afraid of the New SIMS LOL. Thanks!

    #1673263
    Teal
    Participant

    @rencpa, that was super helpful thanks!

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    #1673278
    Julia
    Participant

    I was confused by this:
    The capital structure of a firm includes bonds with a coupon rate of 12% and an effective interest rate of 14%. The corporate tax rate is 30%. What is the firm's net cost of debt
    8.4%
    9.8%
    12.0%
    14.0%

    The cost of debt is the expected interest cost on new debt minus the marginal tax rate due to the fact that interest payments are tax deductible.
    The interest cost of the bonds is 14%. Use the effective rate rather than the standard rate; it is adjusted for compounding the interest more than annually.
    The tax savings equals 30% of 14%, or 4.2% (.30 × .14).
    Subtracting the tax savings from the interest cost yields the true cost of the debt:
    •14% – 4.2% = 9.8%

    I thought it would be .70 because .30 is the tax rate and .70 is the tax benefit. am I wrong? thank you for the help! you guys are awesonme! .

    #1673288
    Teal
    Participant

    Does anyone think it's necessary to read over the Dodd Frank act more than once? I know they say not to memorize, but I feel like it could at least be a written TBS!

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    #1673296
    Julia
    Participant

    @ Teal : I was doing Roger and when the Dod Frank questions came up – the reference vid was not linked to anything. so I am not sure if this means it is not covered or if the act is too new. I simply reviewed the question and skipped going into depth.

    #1673299
    jenpen
    Participant

    @Julia – It's not 70%, because that's not the tax savings. The interest deduction is 14%, so that is income that you are now expensing and not paying taxes on. So you'll save the 30% of tax on 14% of interest, or 4.2%. Subtract the savings from the interest rate, and that's the cost of the debt.

    I hope this helps!

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    #1673300
    jenpen
    Participant

    @Teal I don't believe you need to go in depth with that. I think the worst that will happen is you might get one MCQ on it, but I don't think it's heavily tested.

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    #1673308
    Teal
    Participant

    Can anyone help with this question? Not sure how they came up with this…
    Question 6
    PLAN-0008
    Koby Co. has sales of $200,000 with variable expenses of $150,000, fixed expenses of $60,000, and an operating loss of $10,000. By how much would Koby have to increase its sales in order to achieve an operating income of 10% of sales?
    $400,000
    $251,000
    $231,000
    $200,000
    You Answered Incorrectly.
    This answer is incorrect. An additional $200,000 in sales is needed.

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    #1673312
    jenpen
    Participant

    @Teal I Google'd this because I couldn't figure it out either, and came up with a thread on here a few years ago for this question. It looks like this is the Wiley explanation:

    The solutions approach is to use the standard breakeven formula and solve for sales (S). Variable costs are $150,000 at a sales level of $200,000; therefore, variable costs are .75S ($150,000/$200,000). S = VC + FC + Expected profit S = .75S + $60,000 + .10S .15S = $ 60,000 S = $400,000 Remember that the requirement was the increase in sales to achieve a profit of 10% of sales. The correct answer is $200,000 ($400,000 total sales needed less $200,000 present sales level).

    And here was an explanation from another participant, which I found easier to understand:

    First step is to figure out the VC as a percentage of its sale which is 75% (150/200).

    Then you can use the following equation to figure the rest out. Equation is simply Sales minus the VC minus the FC equals the desires ending result.

    S – .75S – 60,000 = .1S

    .25S – .1S = 60,000

    S = 60,000/.15

    S = 400,000

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    #1673324
    jenpen
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    @MattLorenz I've never used cpareviewforfree. I would be curious to hear your thoughts on it. I don't think it's going to hurt you to supplement Becker with that. A lot of us use more than one test bank to try and get a wider variety of questions and/or explanations.

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    #1673351
    Teal
    Participant

    @Jennifer thank you! That second one was definitely easier to understand. That is a pretty complex problem though…

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    #1673354
    Julia
    Participant

    @Jennifer thank yuou! I never thought of it that way. it says it but I guess my mind did not click.


    @matt
    i purchased “superfastcpa.” I like it because it never expires. I think you have to limit it to 2 devices. My ninja expired 1 week before my test. It’s ok, but I prefer ninja but it is nice to have an alternative. It does group of 5 MCQ so it feels more like a review than a real assessment like ninja.
    I was curious about cpareview for free, but the “no expiration” thing convinced me. Please share your experience with it.

    #1673461
    rencpa
    Participant

    Julia,

    The call of the question (with the interest): use the EFFECTIVE interest rate (NOT the coupon rate!!)

    Net CoD = Effective Interest Rate (pretax) x (1-Tax%)
    Net CoD = 14% x (1-30% =70%) ==> 9.8%

    I am during my break, pretty tired. Not sure what you tried to do with the info, but this is how you do it. I saw Jennifer did her way. Now, you know two methods! Lucky you! 🙂

    #1673465
    RB
    Participant

    Julia I started writing out an answer but I see Jennifer and Ren already covered it well.

    So only to summarize, you were right you could take effective interest X 70%, where the explanation is taking effective interest at 100% minus the savings of effective interest at 30%, its separating 2 components but algebraically its the exact same.

    Teal – it seems like Jennifer gave a good answer. For what its worth I have a math minor (10 years ago) and I struggled thinking through several of these formulas. These are the fun algebraic word problems everyone hated. It's good to know and understanding how to set up the problem will help you with other problems on the exam but I think several of these questions were a bit intense; I wouldn't expect heavy coverage of something this complex on the exam.

    You all are doing great :-), don't even need me anymore!

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