[Q1] BEC Study Group 2014 - Page 19

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  • #524775
    stoleway
    Participant

    Sometimes normal spoilage will not be considered if its below the required limit set by the firm.

    Was there any conditions to the question other than what you've posted ??

    Can you copy and paste the full question?

    REG -63│ 84!!
    BEC- 59│70│ 71 │78!
    AUD- 75!
    FAR- 87!

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    #524833
    stoleway
    Participant

    Sometimes normal spoilage will not be considered if its below the required limit set by the firm.

    Was there any conditions to the question other than what you've posted ??

    Can you copy and paste the full question?

    REG -63│ 84!!
    BEC- 59│70│ 71 │78!
    AUD- 75!
    FAR- 87!

    Mass-CPA

    #524777
    DawgCPA
    Member

    Understood. But even if you take the normal spoilage out, it still leaves you with an answer that's not an option.

    The full question is below:

    A manufacturing company employs a process cost system. The company's product passes through both Department 1 and Department 2 in order to be completed. Conversion costs are incurred uniformly throughout the process in Department 2. The direct material is added in Department 2 when conversion is 80% complete. This direct material is a preservative that does not change the volume. Spoiled units are discovered at the final inspection and are recognized then for costing purposes. The physical flow of units for the current month is presented below.

    Beg. WIP in Dept 2 (90% complete with respect to conversion costs): 14,000

    Transferred in from Department 1: 76,000

    Completed and transferred to finished goods: 80,000

    Spoiled units – all normal: 1,500

    Ending WIP in Dept 2 (60% complete with respect to conversion costs): 8,500

    If the manufacturing company uses the weighted-average method, the equivalent units for direct materials in Department 2 for the current month would be:

    A. 80,000

    B. 90,000

    C. 81,500

    D. 67,500

    The software says the answer is C. I don't understand why, though. My understanding is that the calculation would go like this:

    80,000 + (8,500*60%) – (14,000*90%) + 1,500 = 74,000

    The answer, however, only adds the 80,000 to the spoilage amount of 1,500. Why???

    AUD: 86
    REG: 81
    BEC: 71, 11/2014
    FAR: 10/4/2014

    #524835
    DawgCPA
    Member

    Understood. But even if you take the normal spoilage out, it still leaves you with an answer that's not an option.

    The full question is below:

    A manufacturing company employs a process cost system. The company's product passes through both Department 1 and Department 2 in order to be completed. Conversion costs are incurred uniformly throughout the process in Department 2. The direct material is added in Department 2 when conversion is 80% complete. This direct material is a preservative that does not change the volume. Spoiled units are discovered at the final inspection and are recognized then for costing purposes. The physical flow of units for the current month is presented below.

    Beg. WIP in Dept 2 (90% complete with respect to conversion costs): 14,000

    Transferred in from Department 1: 76,000

    Completed and transferred to finished goods: 80,000

    Spoiled units – all normal: 1,500

    Ending WIP in Dept 2 (60% complete with respect to conversion costs): 8,500

    If the manufacturing company uses the weighted-average method, the equivalent units for direct materials in Department 2 for the current month would be:

    A. 80,000

    B. 90,000

    C. 81,500

    D. 67,500

    The software says the answer is C. I don't understand why, though. My understanding is that the calculation would go like this:

    80,000 + (8,500*60%) – (14,000*90%) + 1,500 = 74,000

    The answer, however, only adds the 80,000 to the spoilage amount of 1,500. Why???

    AUD: 86
    REG: 81
    BEC: 71, 11/2014
    FAR: 10/4/2014

    #524779
    stoleway
    Participant

    OK I see what the problem is, according to the question, direct materials are added when CC is 80% complete.

    When CC is 60%, it means that direct materials cannot be added.

    Do not add the EWIP to your solution because CC has not reached the required limit which is supposed to be 80%

    The company accounts for normal spoilage, so add it to your calculation.

    Completed ………..80000

    Normal spoilage….1500

    81500.

    Hope this helps??

    REG -63│ 84!!
    BEC- 59│70│ 71 │78!
    AUD- 75!
    FAR- 87!

    Mass-CPA

    #524837
    stoleway
    Participant

    OK I see what the problem is, according to the question, direct materials are added when CC is 80% complete.

    When CC is 60%, it means that direct materials cannot be added.

    Do not add the EWIP to your solution because CC has not reached the required limit which is supposed to be 80%

    The company accounts for normal spoilage, so add it to your calculation.

    Completed ………..80000

    Normal spoilage….1500

    81500.

    Hope this helps??

    REG -63│ 84!!
    BEC- 59│70│ 71 │78!
    AUD- 75!
    FAR- 87!

    Mass-CPA

    #524781
    DawgCPA
    Member

    Ahhhh!! The devil is in the details!

    Thank you….so, so much. That gives me something to look for in future questions.

    AUD: 86
    REG: 81
    BEC: 71, 11/2014
    FAR: 10/4/2014

    #524839
    DawgCPA
    Member

    Ahhhh!! The devil is in the details!

    Thank you….so, so much. That gives me something to look for in future questions.

    AUD: 86
    REG: 81
    BEC: 71, 11/2014
    FAR: 10/4/2014

    #524783
    stoleway
    Participant

    I also realized you were solving for conversion cost when the question requires you to solve for Direct material.

    Read the questions very well before you plan your line of attack 🙂

    REG -63│ 84!!
    BEC- 59│70│ 71 │78!
    AUD- 75!
    FAR- 87!

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    #524841
    stoleway
    Participant

    I also realized you were solving for conversion cost when the question requires you to solve for Direct material.

    Read the questions very well before you plan your line of attack 🙂

    REG -63│ 84!!
    BEC- 59│70│ 71 │78!
    AUD- 75!
    FAR- 87!

    Mass-CPA

    #524785
    DawgCPA
    Member

    Oh…great point. By multiplying by the percentage complete, I wasn't even solving for the right thing. Thanks…again. 🙂

    AUD: 86
    REG: 81
    BEC: 71, 11/2014
    FAR: 10/4/2014

    #524843
    DawgCPA
    Member

    Oh…great point. By multiplying by the percentage complete, I wasn't even solving for the right thing. Thanks…again. 🙂

    AUD: 86
    REG: 81
    BEC: 71, 11/2014
    FAR: 10/4/2014

    #524787
    23K
    Participant

    BEC is very different to study for than AUDIT –

    any suggestions on how to attack

    AUD--52,68,83, expired. Retake = 74 RETAKE - 7.24.26
    FAR--73,70,68,75
    BEC-- 79
    REG-- 68,62,75

    #524845
    23K
    Participant

    BEC is very different to study for than AUDIT –

    any suggestions on how to attack

    AUD--52,68,83, expired. Retake = 74 RETAKE - 7.24.26
    FAR--73,70,68,75
    BEC-- 79
    REG-- 68,62,75

    #524789
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    I am having the same problem switching from audit to BEC. I am finding BEC material very difficult and the questions are taking me forever to complete. I have the test set for Feb 22nd and I feel that there is no way I will be ready by then. I also started a new job and that stress is not helping, but thats life I guess and I have to push through to succeed. Good luck to all

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