Test of Controls Issuer vs non issuer clarification

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    sdaccount
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    For a non issuer, after getting an understanding of the clients internal control, its assessed as weak. Because its weak, I’m going to skip the test of internal control and focus on substantive testing.

    If the same company was an issuer with weak internal controls I am going to focus on substantive tests. I am still going to perform test of controls to form an opinion of the company’s internal control.

    Is that correct?

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    jenuno01
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    For nonissuers – you are not required to do TOC- only obtain an understanding of them…however, if you were contracted to audit their controls, you must test them in order to form an opinion on them.

    For issuers – I will copy and paste from notes and hope it helps lol:

    Internal Control

    *You MUST have an understanding of I/C relevant to an entity's financial reporting objective!

    *Document key elements of the understanding of the entity & its environment, including each of the 5 components of I/C

    *Observation/Inspection is the most reliable method

    *The ultimate purpose in assessing CR>> to contribute to the auditor's evaluation of the risk that MM exist in the FS!!

    *LOGIC: TOC helps the auditor assess CR and determine the RMM

    – Use the knowledge provided by the understanding of I/C and the RMM to determine the NET of SUB tests

    -1st- Understand I/C, 2nd-Identify types of potential Mistatements, 3rd-TOC!, 4th-Assess CR, 5th-Determine RMM. 6th-determine NET of SUB testing!–>Might decide not to do only SUB

    *The operating efficiency of I/C is not important to an auditor; the auditor is only concerned w/ operating effectiveness. You are NOT required to assess operating effectiveness during planning

    *I/C is relevant to the entire entity, or to any its operating units or business functions

    *Establishing Budgets and forecasts is a good way for mgmt to supervise

    *Firm's Control Environment: overall attitude and awareness of BoD about I/C

    *The ultimate purpose of assessing CR is to contribute to evaluate of Risk that MM exist in FS (RMM!)

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    Peanut
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    Yeah @ jenuno01!! Awesome post. Thanks much. I'm working A4 today—sigh.

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    jenuno01
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    @Peanut glad you found it helpful! I took it straight from my notes 😉 A4 is fun isn't it? Don't you just love those 100+ cycle questions? lol

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