Blown away by Audit score!!!!!! - Page 2

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    MazyJane
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    I just recently got my exam score back from BEC, which I took on August 6th, 2014 and received the score on August the 26th. The earliest I was to receive the score was August 22nd. I lived with more psychological angst from the August 22nd-26th than most of my adult life. Like all the majority of the posters here, I received a failing score, not just a failing score – which I could understand, but a seventy-muth-fning-four, 74! I am still shocked and until several hours ago, I was debating on whether I should institute a regrading or an appeal. Well, after thoroughly reviewing both options, I decided they were both not financially practicable. Who has $200 to spend on regrading, besides, how do you even know if the AICPA regrades the exam, they probably do not, it probably is not even possible considering the AICPAs “magical” grading methodologies cannot be repeated. An appeal is the way to go – if you have the time and money to travel to Nashville, Tennessee and sit down with a AICPA representative. The cost is $500 up front and $100 per question/simulation chosen for an appeal. Oh, you also have to pay to fly, rent a car, stay somewhere, food, and other miscellaneous expenses. I calculated it would cost me around $5,000 to appeal the exam broken down as follows: initial $500 up front cost, approximately 30 multiple choice questions and 3 simulations at $100 per item – $3,300, traveling expenses $1,200.00! Not to mention, I would have to skip going on a ski vacation or cruise, just to meet the devil incarnate rep of the AICPA tasked with deceiving me even more. The real problem is that I cannot remember the specific question numbers and which tests contained those questions! I can only remember the gist of the questions. You have to tell them which testiest and question number you want to appeal, it cannot be a request for all failed questions, you have to choose which question you think you failed. I studied my ass off and deserved a passing score, but I received the highest failing score possible. My dad is a CPA and several years ago decided to make it my life to become one as well. I have earned a MAFM and a MBA in Finance, took the Becker CPA review and studied independently. I did not like the exam and I thought it skipped material that was covered heavily and more important to the CPA’s understanding of the business environment. Yet, the exam managed to have those non-review material questions riddled with ambiguity to the point of no answer definitely being correct or others being incorrect. In my opinion, that is why the CPA exam is difficult, ambiguity. The questions are written to force the answerer to make assumptions and subsequently, errors. You might be thinking what is my point. My point is something shady is going on at the AICPA!

    Why would the AICPA allow appeals but at prohibitively higher costs? The answer – no one studying for the CPA exam has tens of thousands of dollars to hire a lawyer and institute and appeal. You would be crazy to pay those cheats to cheat you again! Why are question so ambiguous and secretive? Is it not the exact same material with the exception of minor alterations for updates in accounting rules that has been around for decades. My dad’s accounting textbooks were not to different from my mine, except for color, pictures, diagrams and costs. Even if an appeal is instituted, how would you prove that the question was worded, stated, answered, and had the same potential answers as presented in the actual exam? You have no way to prove anything because you cannot bring anything in to the “high-security” test center but nervousness and hopefulness. I just loved being re-fingerprinted to leave the room, which was practically empty, as if someone was pretending to be me taking a break to use the bathroom for me! It took almost ten minutes, roundtrip, for the lady to get my fingerprint matched and for her to “accept” my signature – and that was without a line, god forbid other people are in line waiting to be screwed over by some Pro-metric employee pretending she cannot scan your fingerprint to keep your testing time marginalized for job security purposes.

    On top of all this the AICPA can do the following to you: if you pass the first test let with a good score, then you will get a harder test let worth more on a per question basis. If you do well again, the you get an even harder exam worth even more on a question by question basis. The best scores are automatically placed into the upper bell curve of the “rounding.” For those who perform poorly on the first test let, you are given an easier test-let, which is worth less on a per question basis. If you do bad again, it is an even easier exam, worth even less on per question basis. If the AICPA knows how well you did practically instantaneously to decide if you receive a more or less difficult test let, then why does it take 20+ days to received your final scores? It takes about 3 weeks because your scores and compared to all others taking the exam at that time and every question is graded psychometrically. Psychometrics is fancy way of “curving.” The highest score sets the top upper end of the curve and all other scores are scored downward. Just like an Organic Chemistry exam where the highest score of 52 out of 100 is an A+. If everyone does good and you do good, it is an average good. If you do good and everyone does bad, it is an above average good. If you do bad and everyone else does good, than it is a below average bad. It takes time to see who scored the highest from that testing period, what questions they were asked, what question they are going to decide to de-credit by saying they are only experimental questions to be used in future exams, which questions are only worth .5 instead of 2.0 because of difficulty – set by the percentage of correct and incorrect responses during that testing period, normalizing the pass-fail ratio, etc. Basically, there are so many legitimate ways for the AICPA to fail you, that you could pass with a super high score and end up with a failing grade because of after the fact “magical” scoring. All of which explains the approximate pass-fail ratio which only varies by very little from quarter to quarter on each exam, approximately 50-50. I found some of the other posts interesting that stated their beliefs in being failed for taking the test too late in the window, after a standard number of passing scores have already been achieved. If your a below average passing score, 75-84, then you might find your score curved to a 64-74. Bottom line – I believe that I passed and was denied a passing grade because of the “magical” scoring.

    If you do not think the AICPA denies passing grades even though you passed then you really should not be entering the field of accounting. Do you know that there are approximately 650,000 CPA’s in America for almost 330,000,000 Americans? Why are there so few CPA’s? The AICPA does not want 3 million CPA’s out there decreasing the scarcity of CPA’s, their exceptionally high wages and job security. Sure, not everyone needs a CPA, but 8% of Americans are millionaires, approximately 27,000,000 and countless businesses need hoards of CPAs merely to function day to day. The CPA credential is harder to attain than any other license and practically no one can deny that fact. I can remember meeting a lawyer at the first accounting firm I worked for years ago who was licensed to practice law in over ten states but would say outright that he could not pass the CPA exam to save his life. I never understood why, but now I know why.

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  • #601584
    MazyJane
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    @FearTheBeard – No, I don't really think that the AICPA failed me because they had already handed out too many passing scores. I am just venting. As I said in my original post, I have taken over 25 exams and have never felt this way about any of the other exams. I am not just being a brat because I failed. I have passed 4 exams REG (twice), Audit (expired), and BEC. Having said that, I did not feel any better about the exams I passed than the ones I failed repeatedly in the low 70's. I do believe that my 68 I scored on this exam could have been a passing scores during a different testing window based on the explanation Noct gave above. I have researched all about how the exam is scored, so I am aware of the testlet difficultly increasing with good performance and point values being adjusted based on the number of candidates that answered it correctly/incorrectly. I did not mean to diminish the efforts of anyone on this forum. I am just very frustrated with the way this exam turned out.

    #601585
    musicamor
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    @FearTheBeard…I believe your response was uncalled for and harsh–a majority of the consolation received by CPA exam candidates comes from this site. It is a platform of interaction with other candidates who can directly relate to the struggles, stresses and tensions this exam presents. Jeff has created this wonderful forum for everyone–even those who choose to vent…I believe that is exactly what MazyJane was doing.

    Texas CPA - licensed in 2012!!!

    #601586
    Maverick
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    FearTheBeard, I noticed a trend from past years: 1st and 4th window usually have passing rates lower than 2nd and 3rd. I have read the AICPA's literature on how these exams are graded. I just think it's very odd that the trend is very consistent year after year for each test window. Again, with the 1st and 4th window with the lowest rate of passing and the 2nd and 3rd window with a higher rate. You don't really see the 1st and 2nd pass rates lower/higher consecutively, same for 3rd and 4th – usually lower, higher, higher, lower. The last window tend to consistently decrease in passing rate.

    I once questioned a guy programming a poker machine. He told me that he sets each machine to allow 5% to be returned as winnings, while 95% of cash collected is retained. I don't think it's entirely impossible for the AICPA to have it's system to allow only a certain pass rate based on the overall performance of all candidates. For example, if 75% of test takers passed a section, the system could possibly fail those in the 75-79 scores by curving down to ensure only the higher scores that fall in the 48% rate pass. In a way, isn't this curve present in the BEC section for border scores, only that it's done manually through human graders? Don't you ever wonder how odd it is that the rate seem to fall within a certain range? It is so rare to see a pass rate above 49%.

    Just a theory. Didn't say it is correct. Just wouldn't doubt it because of the trend. Again, just a theory of mine, no real valid proof to justify it. Of course, if I had scores like yours I wouldn't be writing this. I am not as smart as you are…but I know I am blessed in many other ways. Good luck with your other exams. I am sure you will pass.

    F - Passed...THANK YOU, LORD. GLORY TO GOD.
    B - Passed...THANK YOU, LORD. GLORY TO GOD.
    A - Passed...THANK YOU, LORD. GLORY TO GOD.
    R - Passed...THANK YOU, LORD. GLORY TO GOD.

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    #601587
    musicamor
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    @Maverick…will you be my attorney??

    Texas CPA - licensed in 2012!!!

    #601588
    nimmle02
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    @ Maverick, is there as correlation with the pass rate % and the number of people taking exams?

    I would imagine that less people would generally take the exam in Q4 and Q1 due to things like school, and busy seasons whereas NFP tends to be in the fall and everyone else generally in the first quarter of the year. That could also result in people trying to divide their time in more ways than normal resulting in a lower passing rate.

    I sincerely hope that it's not an AICPA conspiracy more than it is a trend due to external circumstances though out the year.

    REG - 5/21/2012 - 85
    FAR - 7/24/2012 - 86
    BEC - 8/27/2012 - 85
    AUD - 10/5/2012 - 72....rematch 1/3/13 (waiting)

    #601589
    Noct
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    The point here is really moot. Having an understanding of the scoring system may provide a better way to gauge performance on test day, but it doesn't really change the score. We have no influence on the way the exam is scored, we can only study as thoroughly as possible to increase our chance of passing.

    FAR - 79 - 07/2012
    AUD - 65, 78 - 11/2012
    BEC - 76 - 11/2012
    REG - 78 - 01/2013
    ETH - 98 - 01/2013

    Material: Wiley books

    #601590

    I've been working in Auditing for for over 6 years now and received a 70 the first time I took Audit. I was dumbfounded, devastated and shocked. I literally just kept crying for days after I got my score. For my restudy plan, I read the chapters, skipped the videos, redid all the homework problems and got an 89 the 2nd time around. I literally increased by score 19 points by doing nothing more than what I did the 1st time around… I actually did less since I skipped the videos. I think passing this exam involves more than just studying your butt off, but the luck of the draw and who else is taking the section in your window.

    I know it's tough not to get frustrated, trust me… but try to dust yourself off and hit the books again. You'll get it.

    REG - 72 (Oct 2011), 74 (May 2012), 80 (July 2012)
    FAR - 77 (Feb 2012)
    AUD - 70 (Aug 2012), 89! (Oct 2012)
    BEC - 71 (Dec 2012), 75!(Feb 2013)

    #601591
    Logichaos
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    Audit was the only part I had to take 3 times. If you use Becker, make sure you always get 85% or above on the MC HW. Then practice the simulations after you have mastered all the concepts.

    Audit- 57, 67, 81

    BEC- 76

    REG- 86

    FAR- 76

    #601592
    mmtx
    Member

    Your title sums it up, I feel the same way. I took AUD for the second time on 12/1 and just received my score this morning. 72. I'm in a state of shock, I was positive I passed. I would have bet the farm.

    I haven't been this pissed off in a long time.

    #601593
    MazyJane
    Member

    @ mmtx – Sorry you didn't pass. It's nice to know that someone else understands how I feel. I received my score on Friday and I am still not over it. Waiting on my score report. Can't wait to see what useful information it provides. The worst of it to me is that we have no idea where we went wrong and we just have to accept whatever score they give us and move on.

    #601594
    mmtx
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    Sorry for you too Mazy, it's an awful feeling. I would love to see my test. I just can't imagine where I went wrong. I was actually smiling when I finished because I felt so good about it.

    And you're right the worst part is the helpless feeling. I'm so sick of this test, I wanted to be done so badly. I studied like a madman, felt so great about it afterwards… then it's like “Here's a 72 and go eff yourself. Nope we won't explain nothing. Give us $200 more dollars try again in a few months.”

    AHHHHHHHH I need to go to an empty room and scream.

    #601595
    MazyJane
    Member

    @mmtx – My sentiments exactly!!!

    #601596
    jaclynnh
    Member

    @mmtx “Here's a 72 and go eff yourself. Nope we won't explain nothing. Give us $200 more dollars try again in a few months.”

    Exactly how I feel, I do know however in Maryland we get a score report.. I got “stronger” in the multiple choice and “weaker” in the simulations. Stronger means over 80%, weaker means less than 75%. I got a 71%.. so frustrating. Anyone have advice on how to study for the sims?

    REG - 77*, 74, 70, 71, 82
    AUD - 71, 68, 71, 83
    BEC - 75
    FAR - 65, 70, 72, 75

    * = Lost credit due to the 18 month rule

    #601597
    mmtx
    Member

    Same deal here. I had two MC topics that were “stronger”, one that was “weaker” and the rest were “comparable”. Then the Sims were “weaker”. What really stink though is that I thought I had gotten a really good draw on the sims. There weren't any that totally threw me off, I felt like I knew the material.

    I've been through the full Becker course for AUD twice now. I think for my third try I'm going to go full blown homework and sim attack. Buy the Wiley test bank as well and just do MC and sims until I pass out. I feel like I get more mileage out of the homework than the lecture stuff.

    #601598
    MazyJane
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    I also had “weaker” on the sims. I thought I had 6 of the 7 tabs near perfect. I don't know what else to do to prepare for those.

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