Audit question, please help

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    misoc23
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    Hey y’all just wondering if anyone can explain why this answer is what it is

    Which of the following types of engagements is not permitted under the professional standards for reporting on an entity’s compliance?

    A. Agreed-upon procedures on compliance with the specified requirements of a law

    B. Agreed-upon procedures on the effectiveness of internal controls over compliance with a law

    C. Review on compliance with specified requirements of a law

    D. Examination on compliance with specified requirements of a law

    Answer is C

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  • #675527
    trish_1234
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    @misoc23

    we cant perform a review on compliance the standards state

    we can however perform agreed upon and exam

    AUD 69, 92 7/15 Gleim and Ninja test bank
    FAR sometime in 10/15 Gleim
    BEC not taken
    REG not taken

    #675528
    WaivingMyHands_ALOT
    Participant

    I think the biggest thing to know here is that CPAs are not Attorneys. As such, “he or she is not expected to have the expertise of a person trained for qualified to engage in the practice of another profession or occupation” (i.e., law) [AT Section 201].

    When performing agreed-upon procedures, the CPA is essentially performing procedures outlined by another party. The CPA makes no claim that the procedures performed indicate compliance with some bigger goal. For instance, if you performed an agreed upon procedure to verify cash balance in a bank account, you would not be providing any type of assurance that the balance tested indicates compliance with some sort of debt covenant. You are only indicating that you performed the procedure, and that the procedure indicated a certain balance. Nothing more.

    This same logic is why a CPA can perform agree-upon procedures on compliance with a law. For instance, let's say were dealing with a banking law that requires a certain amount of customer deposits to be held in reserves. You could perform agreed upon procedures to test the balance of the deposits. Based on your performance of the agreed upon procedures, you leave it to the party that engaged you to make any conclusion on compliance with the law. Because you (the CPA) aren't really making the conclusion, you aren't practicing law (which is a big no-no).

    So you can eliminate answer choices A and B.

    As far as picking between answer choices C and D, I'm a little unsure there. If I remember correctly, an examination provides a HIGHER level of assurance than a REVIEW. So I would think you'd be permitted to perform a review before you'd be permitted to perform an examination (usually if you can perform a high assurance engagement [i.e., an examination] you can also perform a low/no assurance engagement [i.e., a review]).

    I'm guessing there is some subtle nuance/standard and explanation as to why that is not the case here. Maybe someone else can help with that one if they know why.

    AUD 99
    BEC 96
    FAR 94
    REG 96

    #675529
    jf1993
    Member

    Yeah I agree with ^^ GR is we aren't lawyers.. so we can't do any services higher than a review. Exams are okay, Comps are okay, and AUPs are okay.

    AUD: Passed
    REG: Waiting
    BEC: 8/24
    FAR: 10/1

    #675530
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    CPA's are not lawyers but apparently on attestation engagements they can provide an examination on an assertion of management over compliance according to AT 601. Provided that management presents a written assertion over compliance or effectiveness of IC over compliance the CPA can provide an examination when this other conditions are met:

    a. The responsible party accepts responsibility for the entity's compliance with specified requirements and the effectiveness of the entity's internal control over compliance.

    b. The responsible party evaluates the entity's compliance with specified requirements.

    c. Sufficient evidential matter exists or could be developed to support management's evaluation.

    AT 601.55 says that the review may not be performed but it doesn't say why. Maybe I am wrong but to me a review over compliance would not say much since you are only giving limited assurance that management is in compliance, so maybe it has not practical use, but that is just me.

    #675531
    trish_1234
    Member

    I had looked up my book before answering the question… I do not know y but we cannot provide a review only agreed and examination…

    note that forecast and projections have weird limits too

    AUD 69, 92 7/15 Gleim and Ninja test bank
    FAR sometime in 10/15 Gleim
    BEC not taken
    REG not taken

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