AUD Study Group Q2 2015 - Page 67

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    jeff
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    Welcome to the Q2 2015 CPA Exam Study Group for AUD.

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    Posted by Another71 on Thursday, November 13, 2014

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    Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

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  • #669343
    Camille8291
    Member

    @Cd Wolf

    In a test of controls, sample size varies inversely with the tolerable (or maximum) rate of deviation. As the number of allowable deviations increases, the sample size decreases. Sample size increases as the expected population deviation rate increases.” -except from ninja mcq answers

    —I get the first part but can anyone explain to me why the “sample size increases as the expected population deviation rate increases”?

    The second sentence means when you(the auditor) expect the population deviation rate to increase, then you will increase your sample size. What you expect to happen will have a direct effect on your sample size.

    The key words to both of those sentences is tolerate(allow) versus expect.

    Believe it or not, your questions are actually helping me see things that I never saw.

    #669344
    knicks92
    Member

    does anyone have any advice on conquering A4. I've been working on this section for nearly a week now and I have made no progress. I read the chapter twice (some parts even 3 times). I did the questions and got about 50-60% correct on both efforts. I completely do not understand the explanations they provide and when i do get an answer correct, my understanding of how i got the answer is not similar to Beckers explanation. The most frustrating thing is when I look at the reference of the page that Becker provides in how to get the answer and sometimes I cant find anything on the page that has anything to do with the question. It is as if Becker seems to expect me to just have common sense of the knowledge. I have never really experienced something like this with Becker. Usually I wont do well on the questions and wont understand everything i read the first time through, but will have noticeable improvement and understanding the second/third time through. I dont know why this is happening but maybe its because I have always been a tax guy. Another reason I am concerned is because I know this is a very important part of the exam.

    I looked up a lot of the words also that I dont understand, but that still doesnt help too much.

    I am thinking about moving on to A5 and A6 and just going back to A4 later on, but does anyone have any advice.

    Tough times don't last. Tough people do.

    B: 88
    A: 77
    R: 89
    F:

    #669345
    Camille8291
    Member

    @knicks92

    I may can help you what is the topic(s)? I have an older version of Beckers book and my A4 is transaction cycle, audit doc, audit evidence, and evidential procedures. I now have up to date material from Roger and Wiley but the information is the same, it's just explained a bit differently. There is alot of information jammed into a condensed format and it can be overwhelming. What specific area would you like to start with?

    #669346
    Claudia408
    Participant

    Hi Audit Folks,

    Is anyone solely using Ninja products to study for Audit? I bought Ninja Ten Point Combo and I also have CPAexcel but ditched CPAexcel bc it was too dry and boring. I think that's just the nature of Audit… but just want to know how people are using Ninja to study.

    I know everyone swears by doing MCQs over and over and learning why you got the wrong answer. I feel like the Ninja stuff is kinda scattered and I'm a little lost… I finished reading the first 2 books and trending in the 70s for MCQs I & II, but getting to the 3rd book and MCQ section III I feel it's just nonsensical….anyone else?

    BEC - 75 (3x)
    AUD - 78 (3x)
    REG - 67, 66, Aug 1
    FAR - 54, Sept 8

    #669347
    knicks92
    Member

    @Camille8291…im having difficulty with the transaction cycles.

    Tough times don't last. Tough people do.

    B: 88
    A: 77
    R: 89
    F:

    #669348
    Martin
    Participant

    Claudia408, Audit is as dry as a post-menopausal camel,but I dont think ninja notes and blitz has enough detail to help you understand and pass Audit. I cantr say anything about ninjas book, I dont know how detail it is. Ninja's MC test bank is harder than Becker and Wiley, so you might benefit from that portion of the package.

    Through God all things can happen!

    “You never fail until you stop trying.”
    ― Albert Einstein
    When I was young, I used to admire intelligent people;as I grow older, I admire kind people.
    “Just keep swimming, just keep swimming.”

    FAR= 72-84
    Audit= 73-82
    BEC= 74-75
    Reg=77

    #669349
    Martin
    Participant

    Guys, the way to understand transactions cycles is to create flash cards and memorize what each person in private accounting does. For example, who is in charge of authorization?

    Credit Dept

    Personnel

    Purchasing Manager

    Treasure (authorizes w-offs a/r)

    Payable clerk (authorizes voucher)

    etc,etc,etc

    Who has custody?

    Receptionist

    Treasurer (when he sends checks)

    Receiving clerk

    warehouse clerk

    etc,etc,etc

    There are a bunch,but you get the idea. After you memorize what each of them do as far as ARCC, now you will know that the person who authorizes cant record, of have custody etc,etc.

    Through God all things can happen!

    “You never fail until you stop trying.”
    ― Albert Einstein
    When I was young, I used to admire intelligent people;as I grow older, I admire kind people.
    “Just keep swimming, just keep swimming.”

    FAR= 72-84
    Audit= 73-82
    BEC= 74-75
    Reg=77

    #669350
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Thanks Camile! I actually called Wiley the orther day and asked someone if that course offered Research type SIMS and they told me no. But your saying it has Authoritive Literature you can search that simulates what is on the actual exam?

    Is this the product your referring to? Wiley CPAexcel

    Thanks very much since Im only using Ninja mcq now and I really need to be able to practice searching.

    #669353
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Claudia 408,

    For the REG & BEC sections I only used Ninja MCQ testbank along with the Wiley book. I think i did the NINJA MCQ's 2x each for each exam which is alot; and then I did almost all the Wiley MCQ's in the book as my final review. I read the whole Wiley books also(which im thinking wasnt worth it).

    So to answer your question about using just NINJA Mcq its possible because I spent only about 10% of my time with Wiley and 90% doing NINJA Mcq's. Thats all I did, I barely studied. Just did questions and read the answers.

    However, for AUD I having doubts this work again. I know I need to practice doing Research using the Authoritive Literature and the Ninja MCQ bank is just too limited for this in my opinion.

    #669354
    Camille8291
    Member

    @knicks92 and Martin

    I wouldn't go so far as to say memorize the transactions cycle but be familiar with what goes together.

    First, transaction cycles or operating cycles is the term used by the auditor when he is cycling through the transactions to determine who handles what, and to determine whether the functions are handled appropriately. For instance who is authorizing transactions, who is recording transactions, who has custody, and finally are these transactions being compared (reconciled). (ARCC)

    Revenue cycle deals with making money. In order to make money you have to sell something. So you start from the beginning of that cycle and work your way through to the end of it.

    Sales clerk – accepts the customer order

    Credit manager – approves the customer order

    Warehouse house clerk – holds the goods or separate out the goods (inventory)

    Shipping clerk – ships the goods to the customer

    Billing clerk – prepares the sales invoice

    Receivable clerk – post the sale to the customer's account

    and on and on and on………

    Each cycle basically works the same way. I believe as you work through the mc questions, you will get a better understanding of these cycles.

    #669355
    vasq5405
    Member

    I'm sitting for Audit on April 20th. I took a practice test with Becker before I began my final review and scored 79. Is that good or should I be concerned? I am redoing the MCQ twice. So far I've been scoring above 85% on all of the MCQ. Do you recommend redoing the Sims? Any advice is greatly appreciated.

    FAR - 87 02/09/2015 Becker Self-Study
    BEC - 86 02/25/2015 Becker Self-Study
    REG - 92 04/01/2015 Becker Self-Study
    AUD - 82 04/20/2015 Becker Self-Study

    #669356
    Camille8291
    Member

    @cdwolf

    Yes that is the link. There are 31 simulations in the AUDITING test bank and of the 31 sims there are 9 research questions with the authorative literature provided. The categories are Audit Sampling, Engagement Planning, Evidence, Internal Control, Reporting, and Professional Responsibilities.

    I can't answer as to why you were given wrong information, other then probably that person is unaware of what the simulations consist of. Maybe someone needs to suggest to them to display on their advertisement page that the Simulations include Authorative Literature for the Research questions.

    I do feel you will benefit from their material.

    #669357
    Camille8291
    Member

    @vasq5405

    I think you should keep repeating the practice test over and over until you feel completely comfortable with it. Does the practice test give different questions each time you take it? The ideal is for you to feel like you are taking the actual exam and the only way to get that feeling is to keep taking the practice exam while hopefully getting a different set of questions each time.

    #669358
    vasq5405
    Member

    As I said, I have my Audit test on the 20th (which is the cut-off date). Will I get my score on May 5th or next round?

    FAR - 87 02/09/2015 Becker Self-Study
    BEC - 86 02/25/2015 Becker Self-Study
    REG - 92 04/01/2015 Becker Self-Study
    AUD - 82 04/20/2015 Becker Self-Study

    #669359
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    ^^^there's no guarantee, but a lot of people who take it on the cut off date get their results on the day specified; May 5th is in your favor.

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