AUD Study Group Q1 2016 - Page 56

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  • #747591
    The.Underdog
    Participant

    Im in, Test on the 29th. I have read the notes 3 times and will start writing them today. Other then that my plan is to crush some MCQ's and focus on my weak areas ( right now auditing with technology (so much jargin) and variable sampling). Where you guys at?

    FAR - 86
    AUD - 93
    REG - 8/31/16
    BEC -84

    #747592
    EuroAddict
    Participant

    Test on the 29th as well. I've done a ton of Ninja MCQ. One day I feel good, next day it's like I've never seen the material they are asking about lol.

    The damn Q”s about effectiveness of I.C always get me.

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    BEC - 77, 03/2015 (first try)
    FAR - 79, 05/2015 (second try)
    REG - 83, 12/2015 (first try)
    AUD - 84, 03/2015 (first try)

    I got 99 problems but the CPA ain't one.

    #747593

    hang in there EuroAddict, keep pressing on.

    The standard report issued by an accountant after reviewing the financial statements of a nonissuer should state that:
    A.
    the objective of a review is to assist management in presenting financial information in the form of financial statements.
    B.
    we are not required to perform any procedures to verify the accuracy or completeness of the information.
    C.
    the accountant does express an opinion or any other form of assurance on the financial statements.
    Incorrect D.
    the accountant did not obtain an understanding of the entity's internal control or assess control risk.

    [Answer]
    The correct answer is B.
    The following form of standard report is used for a review:
    We are not required to, and will not, verify the accuracy or completeness of the information you will provide to us for the engagement or otherwise gather evidence for the purpose of expressing an opinion or a conclusion. Accordingly, we will not express an opinion or a conclusion nor provide any assurance on the financial statements.

    Per AR-C 90.39, there is no mention of such a thing, this is just a BAD question isn't it? I feel there is no correct answer. Does anyone agree with me?

    Licensed CPA since Apr 16
    Order in sequence of passing
    FAR-71,71,79
    BEC-80
    REG-72,77
    AUD-56,72,72,72,80! Thank you, thank you, thank you Lord!
    FAR/BEC/AUD: Becker & Yaeger lectures (Wiley & Ninja MCQs). REG: Becker lectures (Ninja MCQs).

    #747594
    Spartans92
    Participant

    I do recall that language is located in the reading of becker. I believe a review report the auditor should state as such because it is substantially less in scope than an audit. Plus, it is the best answer of all the choices given. D is true to the sense that you do not have to obtain an understanding of the Internal Control nor assess CR under a review engagement but does not explicitly state this in the report I think.

    BEC- PASS

    #747595

    @Spartans92 so you're saying “we are not required to perform any procedures to verify the accuracy or completeness of the information.” is something auditor can mention although there are no pronouncement regarding whether we can say this… this is the only way i can make sense. thanks Spartans92.

    LOL, ninja just froze up on me… guess it's time to go home. hopefully it'll save my session results.

    Licensed CPA since Apr 16
    Order in sequence of passing
    FAR-71,71,79
    BEC-80
    REG-72,77
    AUD-56,72,72,72,80! Thank you, thank you, thank you Lord!
    FAR/BEC/AUD: Becker & Yaeger lectures (Wiley & Ninja MCQs). REG: Becker lectures (Ninja MCQs).

    #747596
    Spartans92
    Participant

    That language is actually used in a compilation standard report. Where did you get the question?

    BEC- PASS

    #747597
    EuroAddict
    Participant

    I'm terrible at explaining why I think D is wrong but I just don't ever recall seeing somewhere that an auditor would STATE that in the report.

    Yes you don't have to understand IC but you also don't state that in the report.

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    BEC - 77, 03/2015 (first try)
    FAR - 79, 05/2015 (second try)
    REG - 83, 12/2015 (first try)
    AUD - 84, 03/2015 (first try)

    I got 99 problems but the CPA ain't one.

    #747598

    It is a ninja question. i chose D b/c all other answers seemed incorrect answers.

    Licensed CPA since Apr 16
    Order in sequence of passing
    FAR-71,71,79
    BEC-80
    REG-72,77
    AUD-56,72,72,72,80! Thank you, thank you, thank you Lord!
    FAR/BEC/AUD: Becker & Yaeger lectures (Wiley & Ninja MCQs). REG: Becker lectures (Ninja MCQs).

    #747599
    Pandarama
    Participant

    Just hit 1000 question attempts in ninjamcq practice. haha.

    BEC - 80
    AUD - 64, 75 - credit lost, 90!!
    REG - 73, 74, 83
    FAR - 61, 72, 85

    Feels good finishing on my best note. Time to watch the mailbox.

    #747600
    pyacpa49
    Participant

    Hey all, I have a question that I just ran into that is making my brain hate me..

    Proposed JE: Dr. COGS 90
    Dr. A/R 100
    Cr. Sales 100
    Cr. Inventory 90

    Now with this JE the question asks for the effect in the Days Sales in A/R. So my logic is that Sales will increase by 100 and A/R will increase. So I need the A/R Turnover ratio first, which is net credit sales/Avg. A/R. Because the denominator is Avg. A/R, the denominator will increase by some amount less than 100. So this would cause the numerator to increase more than the denominator (Num. increases by 100, denominator increases by <100).

    We then need to determine Days sales in A/R, so: 365/A/R turnover. If, from what we determine above, the A/R turnover has increased, the Days in A/R Turnover should decrease (denominator increases relative to numerator). However, according to the answer, Days in A/R is supposed to increase, not decrease.

    Here's the kicker, the answer gives me this:
    Days' Sales in Accounts Receivable = Accounts Receivable / Credit Sales per day, where
    Credit Sales per day = Total Credit Sales / 365 days

    So.. The entry increases Sales, thus increasing Credit Sales per day. It also increases Accounts Receivable. The net result is an INCREASE in Days’ Sales in Accounts Receivable.

    Both of these make complete sense to me logically, but if they are both supposed to calculate the same ratio, why do I get different answers. Can anybody explain what I am doing wrong? My brain is seriously about to explode..

    #747601
    rafiv900
    Participant

    Agreed-upon procedures. Can you explain briefly?

    Journey Started - June 2015
    FAR - TBD
    AUD - January 20, 2016
    BEC - TBD
    REG - TBD

    #747602
    Pandarama
    Participant

    @pyacpa – hm. Honestly, I wish I could see the actual question and the answer choices that were given. Maybe there was something we're missing?

    @rafiv – agree-upon procedures.. what would you like to know. lol
    You need to have the client spell out exactly what they want you to do.
    You need to restrict/limit the use.
    You need to have independence because it is an attest engagement.

    BEC - 80
    AUD - 64, 75 - credit lost, 90!!
    REG - 73, 74, 83
    FAR - 61, 72, 85

    Feels good finishing on my best note. Time to watch the mailbox.

    #747603
    EuroAddict
    Participant

    @PYACPA – Is that a Ninja Q? If so,what #? If not, where did you get it from?

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    BEC - 77, 03/2015 (first try)
    FAR - 79, 05/2015 (second try)
    REG - 83, 12/2015 (first try)
    AUD - 84, 03/2015 (first try)

    I got 99 problems but the CPA ain't one.

    #747604

    @Pandarama very well explained!

    Licensed CPA since Apr 16
    Order in sequence of passing
    FAR-71,71,79
    BEC-80
    REG-72,77
    AUD-56,72,72,72,80! Thank you, thank you, thank you Lord!
    FAR/BEC/AUD: Becker & Yaeger lectures (Wiley & Ninja MCQs). REG: Becker lectures (Ninja MCQs).

    #747605
    pyacpa49
    Participant

    @EuroAddict this was a question from Wiley, I'm not using Ninja so I'm not sure if there may be a question in Ninja for it or not. It was in the section on gathering audit evidence and doing substantive tests. There really isn't anything else on the question. It just gives a proposed entry and asks how it will change the EPS and Days Sales in A/R ratios. I would copy and paste the entire thing, but Wiley has it in a table and it is not copying in correctly so it looks just awful.

    Edit: also this was a Sim question, not MC, so the options were would the Days Sales in Rec. increase, decrease, or remain unchanged.

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