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May 31, 2017 at 6:59 am #1563000
jeff
KeymasterWelcome to the Q3 2017 CPA Exam Study Group for AUD. 🙂
Introduce yourselves and let your fellow NINJAs know when you plan to take your AUD exam.
The Five Steps (NINJA Framework): https://www.another71.com/pass-the-cpa-exam/
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August 21, 2017 at 12:05 pm #1608810
janellejm7
ParticipantTaking AUD as my first exam on August 31st. Using WileyCPAExcel – any advice for a newbie?
August 21, 2017 at 12:29 pm #1608846me71too
ParticipantCan anybody define members in public practice vs members in business vs other members. I am a little confuse with member in public practice vs public company.
Thank you!August 21, 2017 at 1:41 pm #1608885Xenon
ParticipantBest recollection: members in practice are actively working in the profession and other members are CPAs not working in the profession (think retired or working as a cashier). Other members have to maintain integrity and not violate the code of conduct, while those in practice are held to more responsibilities: objectivity, due care, independence (some), etc.
Public: Typically CPAs at a firm, working on several other's financials (independence)/tax returns (independence not req'd)
Private: Typically working for a bank, a company's accounting department, or for the gov't
August 21, 2017 at 5:32 pm #1609073sgcpa235
ParticipantWiley users – question (AICPA.101132AUD) is inconsistent with the lecture.
Per the video Qualified for scope limitation – it states that there are NO changes to the Auditor's Responsibility section of the opinion, however, per this MCQ and per the actual lecture notes/study guides it states there is a change to the Auditor's responsibility.If you guys see any other inconsistencies like these.. please post here so we can help each other.
ThanksAugust 21, 2017 at 7:07 pm #1609130me71too
ParticipantThank u! xenon
August 22, 2017 at 11:19 am #1609929ThomasHallberg
ParticipantWhere are the Q2 audit retakers at? Lets get this thing going.
August 22, 2017 at 2:43 pm #1610141CoachEmUp
Participant@sgcpa235 There are so many what I would call “little” things like this that bug me about Wiley. I think the issue is that they merged two programs (Cpaexcel and Wiley) together and the test bank (and embarrassingly even lesson assessment questions) have duplicate questions. So instead of there being ~1500 in the test bank it's probably closer to 1000. I didn't see this problem of duplicate questions as much with FAR.
Anyways, as to your original point: Yes, you do modify the Auditor's responsibilities paragraph, but just the last sentence of it.
I'm really struggling most with their sample/statistic questions. Outside of identifying the purpose of attribute and variable sampling I'm a bit lost and hope it won't cost me more than 2 MCQ's on the test. 9 more days to grind!
August 22, 2017 at 6:38 pm #1611966sgcpa235
Participant@CoachEmUp- I noticed that too that even though I've selected the questions I have not answered I am seeing some of the same questions. Ugh..! I still have to go over sampling 🙁
Question to you and to all, in Wiley, they talk about the PR-PR Purpose/Premise, Responsibilities etc..(the 7 clarified principles).. have you guys seen that in the Ninja Notes? I just want to make sure I know the right stuff for the exam. Do you guys know anything about this? Thanks!
August 23, 2017 at 7:23 am #1612277CoachEmUp
Participant@sgcpa235 keep in mind that PR-PR is just a framework for GAAS, but not actually authoritative.
August 23, 2017 at 2:03 pm #1614149sgcpa235
Participant@coach – Ok thanks, it just seems a bit more confusing now the way they've outlined the lectures.
So, if these are not authoritative then are there any others.
For example, I believe the 10 GAAS standards TID PIE GCDO are still applicable for PCAOB. So, those are still called GAAS, right?
While the PR-PR are the 7 for the non-public companies, right?This was all pretty clear in the old material but since they've moved over, I am super confused on what the actual standards are now.
August 23, 2017 at 2:05 pm #1614153sgcpa235
Participant@elwesscpa- I'm in a similar boat as you.. I have a little baby and trying to study. We will all get through this!
I'm just doing the MCQ's and watching lectures for stuff I'm unclear on.August 23, 2017 at 6:28 pm #1614389teejaypark
ParticipantWhich of the following procedures most likely would not be a control designed to reduce the risk of misstatements in the billing process?
A) Comparing control totals for shipping documents with corresponding totals for sales invoices.
B) Using computer programmed controls on the pricing and mathematical accuracy of sales invoices.
C) Matching shipping documents with approved sales orders before invoice preparation.
D) Reconciling the control totals for sales invoices with the accounts receivable subsidiary ledger.
Answer: D
Explanation: The requirement is to identify the procedure that most likely would not be a control designed to reduce the risk of errors in the billing process. Answer (d) is correct because the reconciliation of the control totals for sales invoices with the accounts receivable subsidiary ledger will follow billing; thus billing errors will have already occurred. Answer (a) is incorrect because identification of differences in shipping documents and sales invoices will allow for a correction of any errors and proper billing. Answer (b) is incorrect because computer programmed controls will assure the accuracy of the sales invoice. Answer (c) is incorrect because the matching of shipping documents with the approved sales orders will allow the preparation of a correct invoice.
Which part of the sales transaction cycle is the billing process?
Is it D because the entry is to Accounts Receivable and Sales, so reconciling the total wouldn't actually help with the billing process, which is the process of verifying sales invoice, shipping documents, and ledger, and actually sending the invoice with the inventory?
August 23, 2017 at 8:11 pm #1614462kerry.buscaglia
ParticipantHello! Very much struggling with this questions on Becker:
CPA – 02379
In which of the following situations would the auditor ordinarily choose between issuing a qualified or adverse opinion?
the answer is : Auditors concern about the entity continuing as a going concern are inadequately disclosed.
This confuses me because the text SPECIFICALLY SAYS for going concern you can only issue unmodified with emphasis of matter, or disclaimer of opinion. Am i reading this incorrectly? or is this the most confusing question of all time because the question is technically talking about disclosures?
Thanks to all and good luck!
August 24, 2017 at 6:27 am #1614680CoachEmUp
Participant@teejay Exactly, the reason D is correct there is because comparing sales control totals with the A/R ledger isn't going to help you reduce the risk of misstatements in the billing process.
@kerry You have to read the full answer choice. The key word in there is “inadequately disclosed.” Anytime we're talking about disclosures we're talking about GAAP which would deal with an adverse opinion (due to a departure from GAAP). A disclaimer opinion would be used for something along the lines of: “The auditors tried to examine management's assertions in their disclosures, but were not allowed access to the information to verify them.”
Adverse=GAAP Departure that is material and pervasive in the FS
Disclaimer=Scope Limitation that is material and pervasive in the FSAugust 24, 2017 at 9:49 am #1614732jweeks21
ParticipantAnyone who has taken the AUD exam and used Becker I would gratefully appreciate your input:
I just finished all the modules for Becker and my test date is 8/29. I averaged an 82% on MCQ and an 86% on SIMS on my first time through. My question is, do the Becker AUD SIMS do a reasonable job at preparing candidates for the actual exam? I'm about to begin my review and I'm just trying to decide if I should drill MCQ or practice more SIMS. I've taken the 3 other sections this summer and thought Becker did a great job, but I wasn't averaging as high of scores on those so ironically I am concerned that because I am doing better on Audit the content may not be preparing me as well as the others did… If that makes any sense. I plan on taking one of the Mock Exams tomorrow or Saturday and will just review otherwise until Tuesday when I test.
Thanks!
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