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May 23, 2013 at 7:53 pm #177709
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August 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm #438284
MiaParticipantJam, I came across that question this morning and had totally forgotten how to figure it out too.
So when you want to detect kiting, try to ask:
• when did the company claim they wrote the check (disbursed per books)?
• when was the check actually received (receipt date per bank)?
If the date on the second question is earlier than the date on the first question then you know that they lied about when they wrote the check.
In this particular question, this was how I explained it to myself:
101 – wrote check on Dec. 30, bank received it on Jan 3 – no kiting here.
202 – wrote check on Jan. 3, bank received it on Dec 31 – how is that possible? through kiting. the money was in two places on December 31.
303 – wrote check on Dec. 31, bank received it on Jan 2 – it's all good.
404 – wrote check on Dec Jan.2, bank received it on Dec 31 – how is that possible? through kiting. the money was in two places on December 31.
If I'm not mistaken, the answer is c
BEC 82 Nov 2012 | REG 80 Feb 2013 | FAR 76!!! Apr 2013 | AUD 69 May 2013 | AUD 83!!! Aug 2013
Done!! Thanks Jeff & A71 friends!
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam - For the greater glory of God!
August 5, 2013 at 8:57 pm #438430
MiaParticipantJam, I came across that question this morning and had totally forgotten how to figure it out too.
So when you want to detect kiting, try to ask:
• when did the company claim they wrote the check (disbursed per books)?
• when was the check actually received (receipt date per bank)?
If the date on the second question is earlier than the date on the first question then you know that they lied about when they wrote the check.
In this particular question, this was how I explained it to myself:
101 – wrote check on Dec. 30, bank received it on Jan 3 – no kiting here.
202 – wrote check on Jan. 3, bank received it on Dec 31 – how is that possible? through kiting. the money was in two places on December 31.
303 – wrote check on Dec. 31, bank received it on Jan 2 – it's all good.
404 – wrote check on Dec Jan.2, bank received it on Dec 31 – how is that possible? through kiting. the money was in two places on December 31.
If I'm not mistaken, the answer is c
BEC 82 Nov 2012 | REG 80 Feb 2013 | FAR 76!!! Apr 2013 | AUD 69 May 2013 | AUD 83!!! Aug 2013
Done!! Thanks Jeff & A71 friends!
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam - For the greater glory of God!
August 5, 2013 at 9:38 pm #438286
Jam05ParticipantMia,
Thank you so much for such a detailed answer and yes the answer is C
I just needed to understand what two items to look at(disbursement date per book/receipt date per bank)
August 5, 2013 at 9:38 pm #438432
Jam05ParticipantMia,
Thank you so much for such a detailed answer and yes the answer is C
I just needed to understand what two items to look at(disbursement date per book/receipt date per bank)
August 6, 2013 at 4:49 am #438287
AnonymousInactiveHello All! I am so beyond confused on sampling risk and it's effect on sample size. It appears the answer is always that an increase in sampling risk would result in a decrease for sample size, but for the life of me I can't see why that would be the case. Also, does anyone have a good way of keeping all this sampling stuff straight?
August 6, 2013 at 4:49 am #438434
AnonymousInactiveHello All! I am so beyond confused on sampling risk and it's effect on sample size. It appears the answer is always that an increase in sampling risk would result in a decrease for sample size, but for the life of me I can't see why that would be the case. Also, does anyone have a good way of keeping all this sampling stuff straight?
August 6, 2013 at 2:52 pm #438290
AmayMember@cricket You can lower the sampling risk by increasing the sampling size – this is an inverse relationship. What you are controlling here is the sampling size, and in turn the risk. For example, if you have 10 items in a population, and test 100% of the population, your sampling risk is lower. Remember that sampling risk is the risk that your conclusion based on a sample (i.e testing only a portion of the population) is different from that reached if the entire population (100%) were audited. In other words, testing MORE of the population is always LESS risky than just testing a portion/sample of it. Does this make sense?
BEC: 73, 81
AUD: 85
FAR: 71, 77
REG: 74, 75...finally DONE! 😀*This is my 2nd attempt at the CPA exam. For all of you who have failed this exam many times, given up on it, or taken a break like me, remember that it is still possible to finish what you started...failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently 🙂
August 6, 2013 at 2:52 pm #438436
AmayMember@cricket You can lower the sampling risk by increasing the sampling size – this is an inverse relationship. What you are controlling here is the sampling size, and in turn the risk. For example, if you have 10 items in a population, and test 100% of the population, your sampling risk is lower. Remember that sampling risk is the risk that your conclusion based on a sample (i.e testing only a portion of the population) is different from that reached if the entire population (100%) were audited. In other words, testing MORE of the population is always LESS risky than just testing a portion/sample of it. Does this make sense?
BEC: 73, 81
AUD: 85
FAR: 71, 77
REG: 74, 75...finally DONE! 😀*This is my 2nd attempt at the CPA exam. For all of you who have failed this exam many times, given up on it, or taken a break like me, remember that it is still possible to finish what you started...failure is the opportunity to begin again more intelligently 🙂
August 6, 2013 at 3:20 pm #438292
Jam05ParticipantMia,
I see that you are restudying for AUD too, do you suggest just doing countless number of multiple choice questions in Becker/Wiley plus reading? Or watching lectures/taking notes/mcq
August 6, 2013 at 3:20 pm #438438
Jam05ParticipantMia,
I see that you are restudying for AUD too, do you suggest just doing countless number of multiple choice questions in Becker/Wiley plus reading? Or watching lectures/taking notes/mcq
August 6, 2013 at 3:32 pm #438294
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AnonymousInactiveAugust 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm #438296
MiaParticipantI started from the beginning, watched lectures, did MCQ, read the wiley book like Eliabraham suggested. But I'm running out of time and I've only read the modules for evidence, engagement planning and sampling. Yesterday I did 650 MCQs. My brain was fried at the end of the day but I feel better about it overall.
When do you test Jam?
BEC 82 Nov 2012 | REG 80 Feb 2013 | FAR 76!!! Apr 2013 | AUD 69 May 2013 | AUD 83!!! Aug 2013
Done!! Thanks Jeff & A71 friends!
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam - For the greater glory of God!
August 6, 2013 at 4:18 pm #438442
MiaParticipantI started from the beginning, watched lectures, did MCQ, read the wiley book like Eliabraham suggested. But I'm running out of time and I've only read the modules for evidence, engagement planning and sampling. Yesterday I did 650 MCQs. My brain was fried at the end of the day but I feel better about it overall.
When do you test Jam?
BEC 82 Nov 2012 | REG 80 Feb 2013 | FAR 76!!! Apr 2013 | AUD 69 May 2013 | AUD 83!!! Aug 2013
Done!! Thanks Jeff & A71 friends!
Ad maiorem Dei gloriam - For the greater glory of God!
August 6, 2013 at 4:49 pm #438298
Jam05ParticipantThanks Eliabraham, I cant stand that Wiley book, but will make sure to read it before the exam day
650 MCQs? wow I seriously cant do more than 100 a day….I am just an impatient person in general..so thats why I feel like I have hard time getting through a material, I really hate doing MCQ's in Becker…
I am taking the exam on August 23rd, but I am also studying for REG which I am taking on August 30th. What about you? Have you tried reading the Becker book?
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