AUD Study Group July August 2013 - Page 41

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    jeff
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    jeff
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    Anonymous
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    I have a question in regards to the clarified SAS. I heard so much information that I'm not sure anymore on what exactly has changed. I was wondering if anyone could explain to me on what exactly has changed?

    1) The clarified SAS standards apply only to non-issuers? The 10 GAAS for issuers remains the same?

    2) The report has been changed as well, does that apply only to non-issuers or to issuers as well?

    3) I was told that the 10 GAAS standards have been taken out. If they have been taken out, what have they been replaced with? Will the 10 GAAS standards still be tested on the exam?

    #438192
    Anonymous
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    I have a question in regards to the clarified SAS. I heard so much information that I'm not sure anymore on what exactly has changed. I was wondering if anyone could explain to me on what exactly has changed?

    1) The clarified SAS standards apply only to non-issuers? The 10 GAAS for issuers remains the same?

    2) The report has been changed as well, does that apply only to non-issuers or to issuers as well?

    3) I was told that the 10 GAAS standards have been taken out. If they have been taken out, what have they been replaced with? Will the 10 GAAS standards still be tested on the exam?

    #438047
    Anonymous
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    Diana- I think your a bit confused on a few things, let me try to clear it up.

    10 GAAS Standards-Not GAAP are- (General, Fieldwork and Reporting) -TIP PIE ACDO (See Below) still apply to public (issuers). The clarified standards changed the modification of the report for non-issuers by laying out changes to the audit report now called unmodified instead of unqualified (public still uses the old format)

    Clarity around this is simply that the responsibilities of an auditor and management are stated quite clearly to simplify any possible disputes that could come about due to who's responsibility is who's during the audit.

    Non-Issuers use this new format for audit opinions:

    Intro- states what the audit is performing i.e income statement, b/s cf etc.

    Management Resp (F/S and Design, Implementation and Maintenance of I/C)

    Auditor Resp- obtain reasonable assurance that the f/s dont contain a material misstatement

    Opinion

    ** Also note that when qualifying an opinion, you now add a paragraph called the “Basis for Qualified Opinion” before the opinion paragraph —you do the same for adverse or disclaimer as well….

    Also there is now an emphasis of a matter paragraph and other matter paragraph instead of explanatory paragraph for non-issuers

    10 GAAS standards are still possibility testable since they relate to public:

    Training and Proficiency

    Independence

    Professional Care

    Planning and Supervision

    Internal Control

    Evidence

    A=Accounting is GAAP

    C= Consistency (Implied)

    D= Disclosure (Implied)

    O= Opinion

    #438194
    Anonymous
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    Diana- I think your a bit confused on a few things, let me try to clear it up.

    10 GAAS Standards-Not GAAP are- (General, Fieldwork and Reporting) -TIP PIE ACDO (See Below) still apply to public (issuers). The clarified standards changed the modification of the report for non-issuers by laying out changes to the audit report now called unmodified instead of unqualified (public still uses the old format)

    Clarity around this is simply that the responsibilities of an auditor and management are stated quite clearly to simplify any possible disputes that could come about due to who's responsibility is who's during the audit.

    Non-Issuers use this new format for audit opinions:

    Intro- states what the audit is performing i.e income statement, b/s cf etc.

    Management Resp (F/S and Design, Implementation and Maintenance of I/C)

    Auditor Resp- obtain reasonable assurance that the f/s dont contain a material misstatement

    Opinion

    ** Also note that when qualifying an opinion, you now add a paragraph called the “Basis for Qualified Opinion” before the opinion paragraph —you do the same for adverse or disclaimer as well….

    Also there is now an emphasis of a matter paragraph and other matter paragraph instead of explanatory paragraph for non-issuers

    10 GAAS standards are still possibility testable since they relate to public:

    Training and Proficiency

    Independence

    Professional Care

    Planning and Supervision

    Internal Control

    Evidence

    A=Accounting is GAAP

    C= Consistency (Implied)

    D= Disclosure (Implied)

    O= Opinion

    #438049
    Anonymous
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    @diana_k, with your Item#1, my answer would be Yes, Yes.

    Under Item#2, I'd say Yes too. But let's watch out for each question either referring to issuers or non-issuers. Let's apply old standards to issuers then clarified standards to non-issuers.

    With your point under Item#3, I was also wondering the same thing.

    I reached the end of AUD-B book, I did not see it. So I forgot that I was looking for exact replacement of such new standards. Are they the same 10 standards or maybe 9 or 11?

    Oh well, I found this from my flashcard AUDIT1-5 Version-B:

    What are the 5 general GAAS requirements related to the conduct of an audit?

    The mnemonic is SEJEC.

    I find this easier to remember if I reshuffle it this way: SEE-JC [Like See Jesus!]

    S – Professional Skepticism

    E – Ethical requirements

    E – Sufficient & appropriate audit Evidence

    J – Professional Judgment

    C – Compliance with GAAS

    #438196
    Anonymous
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    @diana_k, with your Item#1, my answer would be Yes, Yes.

    Under Item#2, I'd say Yes too. But let's watch out for each question either referring to issuers or non-issuers. Let's apply old standards to issuers then clarified standards to non-issuers.

    With your point under Item#3, I was also wondering the same thing.

    I reached the end of AUD-B book, I did not see it. So I forgot that I was looking for exact replacement of such new standards. Are they the same 10 standards or maybe 9 or 11?

    Oh well, I found this from my flashcard AUDIT1-5 Version-B:

    What are the 5 general GAAS requirements related to the conduct of an audit?

    The mnemonic is SEJEC.

    I find this easier to remember if I reshuffle it this way: SEE-JC [Like See Jesus!]

    S – Professional Skepticism

    E – Ethical requirements

    E – Sufficient & appropriate audit Evidence

    J – Professional Judgment

    C – Compliance with GAAS

    #438051
    Anonymous
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    by the way- jeff has a video that is ~5-10 minutes long that talks about all the changes post july 1st

    #438198
    Anonymous
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    by the way- jeff has a video that is ~5-10 minutes long that talks about all the changes post july 1st

    #438053
    Anonymous
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    @deano, with the point you made above, now I feel like I am more confused than anybody else here. LOL.

    Okay, I just have to convince myself, with AL research, I will only browse AU-C unless the problem refers to issuers. Am I right?

    10 GAAS stay with me and newly modified reports are trending, right?

    #438200
    Anonymous
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    @deano, with the point you made above, now I feel like I am more confused than anybody else here. LOL.

    Okay, I just have to convince myself, with AL research, I will only browse AU-C unless the problem refers to issuers. Am I right?

    10 GAAS stay with me and newly modified reports are trending, right?

    #438055
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    AU-C are the clarity standards for Non-Issuers…10 GAAS standards apply to issuers.. pre july 1st both issuers and non-issuers followed the 10 GAAS standards…AICPA has said that information before the clarity standards could be testable as well just a good thing to know

    The modification to the non-issuers audit report is a major change as they now explicity state the responsibilities of an auditor and management.

    Hope this helps.

    #438202
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    AU-C are the clarity standards for Non-Issuers…10 GAAS standards apply to issuers.. pre july 1st both issuers and non-issuers followed the 10 GAAS standards…AICPA has said that information before the clarity standards could be testable as well just a good thing to know

    The modification to the non-issuers audit report is a major change as they now explicity state the responsibilities of an auditor and management.

    Hope this helps.

    #438057
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    AU-C are the clarity standards for Non-Issuers…10 GAAS standards apply to issuers.. pre july 1st both issuers and non-issuers followed the 10 GAAS standards…AICPA has said that information before the clarity project could be testable as well just a good thing to know

    The modification to the non-issuers audit report is a major change as they now explicity state the responsibilities of an auditor and management.

    Hope this helps.

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