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November 24, 2018 at 12:02 pm #2069552
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July 4, 2019 at 5:37 pm #2531478
sarahParticipantSo, I think under the PCAOB rules the auditor isn't specifically precluded from disclaiming an opinion in “cases involving uncertainties”–going concern or otherwise. I'm not 100% sure, I got this one wrong too! 🙂
Inadequate disclosure = qualified or adverse
Adequate disclosure = unqualified + paragraph or disclaim the opinion + paragraph“The inclusion of an explanatory paragraph (immediately following the opinion paragraph) in the auditor's report contemplated by this section should serve adequately to inform the users of the financial statements. Nothing in this section, however, is intended to preclude an auditor from declining to express an opinion in cases involving uncertainties. If he disclaims an opinion, the uncertainties and their possible effects on the financial statements should be disclosed in an appropriate manner (see paragraph .10), and the auditor's report should give all the substantive reasons for his disclaimer of opinion (see paragraphs .44–.47 of AS 3105, Departures from Unqualified Opinions and Other Reporting Circumstances).”
Source: https://pcaobus.org/Standards/Auditing/Pages/AS2415.aspxJuly 6, 2019 at 6:03 pm #2536914July 10, 2019 at 12:17 pm #2546976
75ParticipantWhat could be a real life example of Service Organization as provided by AU-C 402, Audit Considerations Relating to an Entity Using a Service Organization?
July 10, 2019 at 4:15 pm #2547402
sarahParticipant@75 Generally speaking, the auditor is concerned with service organizations that provide services that are relevant to the audit. For example, providing:
1. maintenance of the user entity's accounting records
2. management of the user entity's assets or
3. initiating, authorizing, recording or processing transactions as an agent of the user entitySo basically, anyone who provides services that ultimately impact the client's financial statements. The most frequently used examples I can think of is payroll services (like ADP) or third party custodians who manage a company's pension plan (like Morgan Stanley). If a company like ADP manages the client's payroll, I would want some kind of assurance that ADP's controls are working properly and those payroll amounts are free from misstatement. Hope this helps, I'm certainly no expert.
July 10, 2019 at 4:49 pm #2547465
Ralphie Dos NachosParticipant@David Becker says:
Attest = report
Non-attest = no reportThat confused me too at first because I thought attest engagements only means SSAE but no, attest vs non-attest is based on the above mentioned.
July 10, 2019 at 7:34 pm #2547945
75ParticipantThank you Sarah, You are right. It makes sense now.
July 11, 2019 at 6:54 am #2548407
Boardmangetspaid91ParticipantHi all
Its going to be my first time taking AUD (no experience in this area) and want to take it in 5 weeks. Lately Ive been thinking it might be best to study by taking sets of 10 or 20 mcq as open book tests. I am using a wiley book and printing out the MCQ that they have in the back. Ill answer like its a normal quiz but I have no clue I will look for detail in the applicable chapter. Has anyone ever tried this? Going through the book without seeing the questions first will put me to bed and jumping blindly into MCQ can be defeating.Hoping this method will help me better grasp the material before I jump heavily into MCCQ/Sims.
July 12, 2019 at 4:28 pm #2552493
75ParticipantI need pls some help on this
Preconditions for attestation engagement:
1-The practitioner must be independent.
2-The responsible party must take responsibility for the subject matter.
3-The engagement has these characteristics:
(a) the subject matter is appropriate;
(b) the criteria to be used are suitable and available;
(c) evidence is expected to be available to support the opinion, conclusion, or findings; and
(d) the opinion, conclusion, or findings will be expressed in a written report.I believe characteristic (a) “subject matter” could be the financial statements or anything measurable, but what could be a real life example “the criteria” as per characteristic (b) ?
July 12, 2019 at 6:18 pm #2552661
75ParticipantWhat is the difference between Management Written assertions and Management written representations in Examination Engagements?
July 14, 2019 at 9:41 am #2555445
sarahParticipant@75 “criteria” is the measuring stick on which you base you opinion or conclusion, etc. In a financial statement audit, for example, the auditor seeks to determine if the financial statements are presented fairly in accordance with the “criteria”, whether that be GAAP, cash basis, tax basis, regulatory, contract, or some other set of accounting principles. Alternatively, when the auditor gives an opinion on the operating effectiveness of internal control, the “criteria” might be COSO Internal Control Framework. It all depends on the type and purpose of the engagement, but each attest engagement must have some kind of criteria on which the auditor can judge the client's financial statements, compliance, internal control, etc. So, as a precondition for accepting an engagement the auditor should ensure whatever criteria management is using acceptable.
In regards to your second question, “management's written assertion” (as it relates to an examination, review or agreed-upon procedures under SSAE) is a written report obtained from management when purpose of engagement is to issue an opinion or conclusion on whether or not “management's assertion” is fairly stated. This assertion should be clearly stated in management's written report and accompanies the examination, review or agreed-upon procedures report. On the other hand, management's written representation is the letter provided to the auditor by management that expressly states management's responsibility in relation to the engagement (i.e., management is responsible for the financial statements, internal control, internal control over fraud, and has disclosed to the auditor all known related party transactions, fraud, noncompliance contingent liabilities, litigation, etc.)
Hope this helps!
July 16, 2019 at 9:52 am #2559777
Str8Bussin,CPAParticipantI agree with you Kostas. I too took all 3 of Becker's mock exams: 74, 75, 83. I sorta panicked after the first one I got a 74 on. So I reviewed and reviewed and reviewed. Subsequently saw my score increase to a 75 and reviewed more. I wanted to skip the third mock exam – thinking the Becker bump will save me, but I didn't want to leave anything out/cheat myself. So I took the third one, but studied some more. When it came to the real exam, I knew what was expected and didn't get hung up too much – except 2 SIMS…Thus, what helped me through studying this go around was simply not cheating myself, understand vs memorize, and staying optimistic. We shall see 8/6!
July 16, 2019 at 4:15 pm #2560578
75Participant@Sarah Thank you! If I understood well, the “management's written assertion” could be anything that management wants the CPA to attest on.
Best of luck with your exam.July 17, 2019 at 8:09 am #2561673
75ParticipantWhat could be an example of:
Laws and regulations having a direct effect on Financial Statements and
Laws and regulations not having a direct effect?July 30, 2019 at 6:15 pm #2591367
LysParticipantHi everyone 🙂
I am planning on taking Audit at the end of august! Should be getting my NTS sent to me in a couple of days. Best of luck to everyone!
July 31, 2019 at 9:52 pm #2595285
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