AUD Study Group – Q2 2018 - Page 29

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  • #1817031
    stfleurr2
    Participant

    Took AUD today; not feeling good. MCQs were manageable,SIMS were the beast. Do yourselves a favor and take the CPA sample test on the AICPA website before taking the exam.

    #1817932
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Taking AUD on Tuesday. Office letting me use Monday to study. Time for a power weekend.



    @stfleurr2
    , I took FAR 2 months ago and thought the AICPA Sample test was a fair representation of what to expect on the SIMs. Do you feel that was the case here too? Anyone else?

    #1818056
    MR.93
    Participant

    Is anyone else having difficulty completing the audit sample test on the AICPA website? The tool is very slow and when I start the practice exam, I'm kicked out of it with an error message saying something along the lines of there's been an issue that cannot be resolved (can't remember the exact words).

    #1818217
    frozenassets
    Participant

    I took Audit today. I feel like I did fairly well on MCQ but SIMS were hard. Overall, it was what I expected. Just hoping for a 75. I didn’t get a SIM in Becker or NINJA that was similar to what was on my exams. I guess that’s their point. Are any of the SIMs test/pilot questions and will be thrown out?

    I know some McQ are test/pilot questions.

    #1818715
    seepeehay
    Participant

    Took audit today. I think the sims were similar to Becker's, same format just different questions asked or information given. Taking FAR last month was really a big help as my sims involved a lot of FAR concepts. The research question I had wasn't hard to find either. I may be wrong but I must say I was more confident walking out of the exam center than when I took FAR a month ago.

    #1819231
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @mr.93 I'm having the same problem. It goes really slowly loading between testlets and eventually crashes. Have only gotten to see a few of the SIMs. Have been using Chrome. Will try on another browser and see if that helps.

    #1819334
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @mr.93 just got through the whole thing. Seems to be working fine now.

    #1819640
    MR.93
    Participant

    @AF Thanks for letting me know! I'll have to give it a try again

    #1819931
    Joetse
    Participant

    You just need to do as many sims from modules 3 and 4 out of Becker as you can. You'll see enough answers for completeness/existence for A/R, A/P, and payroll that you'll start to just remember just by memory. Just know, physical observation has to do with completeness and never with valuation. You can't arrive at balances from looking at something; physical observation is about counting the QUANTITY of something, you have to assume you have no price data (that's the trick I learned from Becker. They don't say this in the lecture but it's found in one of the answers to one of the sims. That physical count of assets is only about quantity, so you cannot arrive at a balance on the balance sheet). But also the answer in becker says physical observation also provides some evidence with completeness and rights (I guess you're supposed to assume the warehouse supervisor separates the pile of consigned inventory from their own inventory or it's marked like so). So, you can only get answers for valuation/allocation, recalculation/reperformance from actual documentation, like invoices or valuation models in the system. Without paper documentation or access to the system, the only evidence or procedures you could perform are inquiry and observation.

    #1820021
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    @joetse Can you point to specific BEcker SIM you are referring to?

    #1820047
    Joetse
    Participant

    It might have been an m/c question on mock exam 2, testlet 1 in the first 20 questions. Asked about observation of inventory count provides what sort of evidence, and if an answer choice had anything with valuation, it was wrong. But existence, completeness, and rights are evidence from observation of inventory count. Not to be confused with inventory observation which is done during fieldwork. Observation of client counting of inventory is year end. Sorry if I've confused anyone. Point is, price is not part of observation since price valuation is differs for each piece of invntory based inventory valuation method management uses, FIFO, LIFO, RETAIL, Etc which is based on their written significant policies and notes to f/s.

    #1820119
    Joetse
    Participant

    Omits substantially all the disclosures means it's got a specified limited user like regulatory agency or bank, and they don't care about the disclosures, just the numbers for say, maintaining ratios for a debt covenant or borowing base for factored receivables. It means they have to follow the form of the f/s, but don't care as much about the substance (so dont need as much explanation on the notes). They care more about the ratios and may use condensed data or a common size statement. You can still do a compilation as long as it's disclosed in the report that disclosures are omitted (you are justifying any departures from applicable f/r framework)

    #1822661
    sheskierk
    Participant

    So I took Audit today. Studied so hard and went in so confident but left with the same feeling as I did with FAR. I somehow got a 76 on FAR, so I thought Auditing would be a bit easier. I am really letting it get to me because I definitely rushed through the first MC booklet, in order to have plenty of time for SIMS. The SIMS were nothing like Becker, and there was a descent amount of multiple choice I wasn't 100% on. If I fail Auditing I am really going to let it get to me due to the fact I rushed through the first MC booklet. I think I am just going to do some progress tests until I get my score in a few weeks. That way if I do fail AUD, everything will still be fresh in my head and will take it again first month of next quarter. Any suggestions to staying motivated in this situation?

    BEC 12/19

    FAR 76

    REG 9/19

    AUD score release 6/27/19

    #1822828
    Joetse
    Participant

    You have to recognize that all your studying is cumulative, and you're that much closer to passing. I got frustrated too that the new exams are about 7 points harder than the old, but I'm starting to get used to the Becker sims now and the actual CPA sims, by just doing all the sims in Becker. If you literally do all the sims in Becker, and a good amount of m/c from each section, there should not be a sim that surprises you or looks unfamiliar. I'm starting to get more of the assertions/internal control type sims correct now, and it's just a matter of memorizing the answers and practice. I know their answers are not the straightforward textbook answers you'd expect for completeness/existence. Becker taught for completeness to trace to the books/GL, and for existence, to vouch from the books to source docs or other supporting evidence off the books. But the answers may not have those choices, they will have a matching process or something else that should make sense if you knew the answer in advance. But there's only so many concepts they can test for segregation of duties, I/C, and assertions audit evidence before you've see them all. I'm getting better at the tick mark sims and reports and contingencies/uncertainties. Continue working more sims and m/c, and when you start seeing you're getting more and more right, that should give you the motivation and hope that you can pass and conquer this beast. You didn't come this far to give up now, so finish the good race, and you can do it!!! Even if you lose some credits, keep attacking and attacking, eventually you'll have all the knowledge fresh in your head and have worked all the problems, that they're be nothing you haven't seen, and sims should go a lot easier on exam day. Good luck.

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    jeff
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