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March 20, 2018 at 4:48 am #1742288
jeff
KeymasterWelcome to the AUD CPA Exam study group for April & May 2018 exams. 🙂
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May 15, 2018 at 6:18 pm #1798277
famh110
Participant@kg79, I will start on it tomorrow. Will tell you after one week how useful I think it is.
May 15, 2018 at 6:26 pm #1798280Allsheneededwassome
Participant@fahm, sacpa: I try to study in the evenings everyday for 2 -3 hrs at a starbucks. Then i come home do kid stuff for an hour or so and then hit the books maybe on some nights for a bit. Most nights I am too tired so its very light reading if any. Then I study 8 am – 12 pm or so on weekends, and spend the rest of the weekend with the fam. I just can't go without spending any time with them. I feel VERY guilty. As I get closer to exam date, I increase the hours I spend on weekends at starbucks. Now this whole schedule.. well I only used for FAR and my most recent AUD retake. Prior to that I wasn't able to really commit to a set schedule (newborn at home, older was still too young yada yada) and that is reflected in my failing scores that you see below. 🙁
Personal factors play such an important role.
May 15, 2018 at 6:57 pm #1798336sacpa
Participant@Allsheneeded: Hats off to you! I can relate to the challenges due to personal factors. All the best for AUD & BEC!
FAR - < than 75, 10/2013, 2/2015
BEC - < than 75, 10/2013
AUD - < than 75, 8/2015, 1/2016~ Winners fail until they succeed. Losers quit when they fail. - Robert Kiyosaki
~ I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me.
~ Something will grow from all you are going through. And it will be YOU.
~ Right now you may not be where you intend to be, but it's where you need to be in order to get where you want to go.May 17, 2018 at 1:51 pm #1800595Anonymous
InactiveThis thread is kind of dead. I'm taking it 6/5. 4 Chapters left of Gleim. Anyone else taking it around then?
May 17, 2018 at 3:31 pm #1800703Sne58
Participant@AF I am also taking audit on 6/5. This is the last one, few more weeks to go and hopefully done.
May 17, 2018 at 5:29 pm #1800785rahee
ParticipantCan someone please help me understand this question:
Which of the following will cause a CPA to not accept a new audit engagement?
a. CPA's lack of understanding of client's industry and operations
b. inability to view predecessor auditor's working papers
c. prospective client's unwillingness to permit inquiry of its legal counsel
d. indications that management investigated employees in key positions before hiring themthe correct answer is C, but can someone explain why the answer isnt B or D? Isn't option B a significant scope limitation, and doesnt option D indicate lack of management integrity?
Am I overthinking this?
May 17, 2018 at 8:56 pm #1800961sacpa
Participant@AF: I planning to take AUD around June 7th or 8th. Due to a crazy personal schedule, I do not schedule way ahead & have to take a chance of keeping up the pace with no set date. I also use Gleim. famh & allsheneeded chime in whenever they can in this thread. Otherwise, I feel like I am talking to myself. But it looks like the thread was very active during the beginning of the window when lot of people took AUD. All the best for AUD!
@Sne58: It's good that there are some who is taking it end of window. It must be great being on the home stretch. Best of luck for AUD!FAR - < than 75, 10/2013, 2/2015
BEC - < than 75, 10/2013
AUD - < than 75, 8/2015, 1/2016~ Winners fail until they succeed. Losers quit when they fail. - Robert Kiyosaki
~ I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me.
~ Something will grow from all you are going through. And it will be YOU.
~ Right now you may not be where you intend to be, but it's where you need to be in order to get where you want to go.May 17, 2018 at 9:10 pm #1800962gryfi
ParticipantReporting on internal control under Government Auditing Standards differs from reporting under generally accepted auditing standards in that Government Auditing Standards require a:
A) statement of positive assurance that internal control procedures designed to detect material errors and fraud were tested.
B) written report describing each significant deficiency observed, including identification of those considered material weaknesses.
C) statement of negative assurance that internal control procedures not tested have an immaterial effect on the entity’s financial statements.
D) written report describing the entity’s internal control procedures specifically designed to prevent fraud, abuse, and illegal acts.
The correct answer is B but I don't get why 🙁 I picked D because I thought the whole point was to report on IC and fraud?
May 17, 2018 at 9:32 pm #1800967sacpa
Participant@rahee: What I understand:
Why it's not B:
1. Predecessor's working papers are his/her property & need not be provided to client or others unless required by Statute, Regulation or Contract.
2. Predecessor's audit documentation is made available before engagement acceptance.
3. If predecessor does not respond to inquiries & if client refuses to give permission, then there is scope limitation.Why it's not D:
The fact that management investigated key employees before hiring them indicates that they are focusing on human resources element of quality control so that commitment to ethical principles are maintained by the employees who will take up significant positions. Also, the tone at the top is essential for a firm to promote an internal culture which insists on quality control while performing the engagement. Hence the need to investigate them whether they will maintain the tone at the top. The fact to look for in D is that the investigation was done before hiring key employees NOT after hiring them which indicates that there was lack of management integrity.Hope this helps.
FAR - < than 75, 10/2013, 2/2015
BEC - < than 75, 10/2013
AUD - < than 75, 8/2015, 1/2016~ Winners fail until they succeed. Losers quit when they fail. - Robert Kiyosaki
~ I survived because the fire inside burned brighter than the fire around me.
~ Something will grow from all you are going through. And it will be YOU.
~ Right now you may not be where you intend to be, but it's where you need to be in order to get where you want to go.May 17, 2018 at 11:54 pm #1801016gryfi
ParticipantAs lower acceptable levels of both audit risk and materiality are established, the auditor should plan more work on individual accounts to:
a) find smaller errors.
b) find larger errors.
c) increase the tolerable error in the accounts.
d) decrease the risk of overreliance.
I knew it was either A or B (correct answer) but I don't understand why..
May 18, 2018 at 9:12 am #1801250famh110
Participant@allsheneedwassome….thanks for that info. great job on staying consistent. i have been going to a local library in evenings that seems to help but totally messes up kids night routine as everything around the house is waiting on me to get done. its super exhausting! so no such thing as light reading before sleeping exists for me. i crash in a few minutes after going to bed! lol summer is coming so kids schedule would be a little lax so I am trying to modify my schedule to wake up in the mornings and hit the books at 5 ideally but for some reason, its not happening. i think it goes back to sleeping early in order to wake up early.
@rahee, use process of elimination with these type of questions. it helps a ton. i agree with @sacpa explanations! i finished becker finally. hitting review phase. how far along are you now?
@gryfi, for your first question, i can't recall the exact ruling but its quite similar to the AICPA ruling regarding fraud and noncompliance that the audit is conducted only to obtain reasonable assurance so if you are not aware of anything then its not your responsibility but if you do come to know of something like fraud or some sort of non compliance then you are suppose to ascertain it. to conclude, a report is required for internal control over financial reporting and compliance in all cases under GAGAS. However, in instances where there is internal control deficiencies (significant or material weakness), fraud, or noncompliance that have material impact on financial statements, more rules apply and here is what you will need to read…too time consuming for me to summarize all that hehe
https://www.gao.gov/assets/590/587281.pdf —go in and read the small paragraph on reporting deficiencies pg 101 🙂for your second question, what were the answer explanations? choice A is incorrect because if you are reducing materiality to lower levels, you will need to collect more evidence and increase “NET” of your audit procedures. you would least likely be interested in smaller errors because they will be immaterial to your financial statements. as an auditor, you would want to find larger errors as they would likely results in material misstatements to financial statements if left undetected. hopefully, it makes sense? i would encourage you to draw a graph and plot points on it and that should help a lot IMO. it's hard to explain these kind of concepts just by writing it out.
May 18, 2018 at 9:47 am #1801288Anonymous
InactiveGlad to see the group going again.
@sacpa I'm planning on finishing Chapter 17 of Gleim today. How far are you? I'm planning on getting through reading through chapter 20 with some MCQ sprinkled in by Monday. From then on just going to hammer MCQs and go through the blueprint and practice a few SIMs that correspond to each Analysis and Evaluation task.
@gryfi (2nd Questions): As the tolerance for Audit Risk and Materiality decrease, it means that larger errors are more significant and more likely to be reflected of Material Misstatements. That being the case, the auditor should plan on trying to find the larger errors in order to keep the audit risk at tolerable levels.May 18, 2018 at 1:22 pm #1801579RSM
ParticipantHi,
I have scheduled my Audit exam for 5/29. I have been hammering away at the MCQs with Gleim. I wanted to know what would be a good score as I am nervous about the range I am in. I generally score between 45-65% on the 20 mcq testlets that gleim recommends. Is this a good score range? Can anyone please help with suggestions? Thanks!
May 18, 2018 at 1:38 pm #1801639gryfi
Participant@rsm I would try to score higher for MCQ tbh. I am currently scoring in the 60s zone and I'd feel more confident scoring in the 80s considering they're the best way for you to control your overall score.
Does anyone understand this? I literally am puzzled.
The auditor would normally concentrate on which of the following key factors and assumptions in evaluating the reasonableness of an estimate?
A) Lack of relative significance of the accounting estimate
B) That the estimate has little susceptibility to misstatement and biasness
C) Consideration of the historical experience of the entity in making past estimates as well as the auditor's experience in the industry
D) That the entity has established an audit committee to oversee the audit function
The correct answer is C but I guessed B. I don't understand how an auditor can use historical experience if they're auditing that specific company for the first time… Wouldn't B be better because if it is less prone to misstatements/ biases, it will be more supporting to believe?
May 19, 2018 at 9:38 am #1802425Julia
ParticipantRahee: sorry for the delay. I have been MIA on all social sites. Lol.
The answer to these questions is always “C” type answers. If they do not allow u access to files or people will mean limited scope. All else can b overcome.
Mgt investigated key employees. This decreases chances of fraud with them. -
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