[underwateraccountant]

I wish PIP was a CPA review mnemonic but in this case it unfortunately is not. I’ll keep this brief but would love any insight/advice:

– Working since 2008 in industry and public (now public)

– Two promotions in last 7 months.

– Work remotely from manager in another office. We have different personalities and I have been hung up on a few times during correspondence (never raised my voice).

– No on the job training.

– Just received bad review. Never have in past. Been with company 2.5 years but 1st review with new manager.

– Review did not give any concrete details or examples. Review says lines like “x does not seem to want to do well” or “the improvements made are maybe not enough to show he/she can thrive in this position.”

I was tasked to write my own PIP after the review. I have never heard of someone writing their own, I always thought the point was for the manager to bring one up and the employee to address it in 30-90 days. Does anyone have any experience with this? Without concrete examples, I don’t know how to approach this. Is it also true that most PIP’s are just a paper trail to dismissal? I feel like I’ll just be writing my own dismissal whether I agree with it or not. I’m preparing for the worst and already had two phone interviews. At this point I’m just frustrated and scared. And honestly, this is a confidence crusher. I can’t afford to be without an income with a mortgage, family, etc.

Thanks in advance! The shock of it all made for a pretty miserable holiday weekend.

[taxman89]

that does seem weird. obviously you think you are doing fine (otherwise you would change your behavior) its just the new manager that has an issue. You have been promoted twice in the last 7 months so the other managers seems to think so too….i mean since you have been promoted twice in the last 7 months you are prolly fine…..but it definitely seems weird

Aud-75 3x I knew i never liked you
Bec-77 1x being in the bubble is stressful
Reg-82 4x its not me its you...and no we cant be friends
Far-78 1x easiest section

[taxman89]

that does seem weird. obviously you think you are doing fine (otherwise you would change your behavior) its just the new manager that has an issue. You have been promoted twice in the last 7 months so the other managers seems to think so too….i mean since you have been promoted twice in the last 7 months you are prolly fine…..but it definitely seems weird

Aud-75 3x I knew i never liked you
Bec-77 1x being in the bubble is stressful
Reg-82 4x its not me its you...and no we cant be friends
Far-78 1x easiest section

[Kimboroni]

Is there any way that you could ask for some more direction on what specific improvements you could make? And document it with HR?

If anything else, it shows that you do indeed “want to do well” and “make the necessary improvements to thrive in the position.”

AUD 84 (1/9/14-Wiley books/TB + free materials)
FAR 83 (5/21/14-the above + NINJA 10 Pt Combo Lite)
REG 84 (7/9/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC/Notes)
BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

Disclaimer: My ninja avatar is not meant to imply that I have any affiliation with this site other than being a forum member. That's a pic of a T-shirt that my daughter gave me for my birthday. 🙂

[Kimboroni]

Is there any way that you could ask for some more direction on what specific improvements you could make? And document it with HR?

If anything else, it shows that you do indeed “want to do well” and “make the necessary improvements to thrive in the position.”

AUD 84 (1/9/14-Wiley books/TB + free materials)
FAR 83 (5/21/14-the above + NINJA 10 Pt Combo Lite)
REG 84 (7/9/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC/Notes)
BEC 76 (10/5/14-Wiley books/TB + NINJA Audio/FC)

Disclaimer: My ninja avatar is not meant to imply that I have any affiliation with this site other than being a forum member. That's a pic of a T-shirt that my daughter gave me for my birthday. 🙂

[jeff]

A PIP is a NINJA Mnemonic 🙂

FIDUCIARY FUNDS

Agency Fund

o Government acts as an “agent” or custodian

Pension Trust Fund

o Government is a trustee for a pension plan

Investment Trust Fund

o Government is trustee over a series of investments

Private Purpose Trust

o Trust that benefits various individuals and entities

Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

[jeff]

A PIP is a NINJA Mnemonic 🙂

FIDUCIARY FUNDS

Agency Fund

o Government acts as an “agent” or custodian

Pension Trust Fund

o Government is a trustee for a pension plan

Investment Trust Fund

o Government is trustee over a series of investments

Private Purpose Trust

o Trust that benefits various individuals and entities

Jeff Elliott, CPA (KS) | Another71 | NINJA CPA | NINJA CMA | NINJA CPE

[underwateraccountant]

HR was in the meeting when I asked for examples. I believe they are more for protecting a company's interest (and their own).

I did some research last night and never found one example of someone crafting their own PIP.

I think I'm going to go in the direction of asking for the relevant training that I asked for when I took the role in the PIP. I just don't know where to take it without it being unclear or unmeasurable.

[underwateraccountant]

HR was in the meeting when I asked for examples. I believe they are more for protecting a company's interest (and their own).

I did some research last night and never found one example of someone crafting their own PIP.

I think I'm going to go in the direction of asking for the relevant training that I asked for when I took the role in the PIP. I just don't know where to take it without it being unclear or unmeasurable.

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