Two offers on the table – Local firm vs Wipfli - Page 3

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  • #181070
    texasman
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    December 2013 Graduate with multiple offers on the table. Most appealing are a small one office firm (60 accountants) or Wipfli (roughly 1,200 national employees, primarily based in the Midwest).

    I want to run through the pros and cons and get your insight. Ultimately I would like to work for at least 3 years, have my CPA license, then move to LA to try acting/voice acting. I’m going to live frugally, save money, and pay off my $20k in student debt. Climbing the career ladder in a corporation ins’t the most appealing to me, so if I bomb in LA I’d find some avenue to use my accounting experience, but not necessarily Corporate America.

    I worked a tax internship before, did not enjoy tax that much, so want more of an audit role. Both firms will have me do tax come busy season, but offer more accounting/audit type work come off-season.

    -=-=-Small Firm-=-=-:

    Positives:

    +Pays hourly until Director level. My offer is for $24.50/hr or roughly $54-57k/year.

    +3 weeks PTO base, can bank overtime into additional OT (i.e. not uncommon to have 6 weeks PTO in the summer)

    +$2k signing bonus paid over my first 3-4 months.

    +Great people

    +$4k CPA pass bonus, first two attempts on each test are paid for, and first two attempts on each test are PTO

    Negatives:

    – Not well known outside of local market.

    – I would have to find a subleaser, move, find a new place, etc. Money is tight right now. (Land lord said there’s a possibility she may already have someone if I do decide to move)

    – Office is in the suburbs of a metro area I’m not the fondest of.

    -=-=-Wipfli-=-=-:

    Positives:

    +Internship offer just got upgraded to full-time as they knew I was debating other offers

    +Office is a 10 minute walk from my current apartment

    +Would not have to move.

    +Standard accounting firm benefits

    +More well known than small firm

    +Multiple locations. They mentioned I could work in my current city and move to a bigger office if I please.

    +I like the city I’m in quite a bit, although it’s small.

    +Will get exposure to forensic accounting as multiple CFEs are on staff and partner said he’d get me in touch with them after busy season.

    Negatives:

    -Salary is about $45k, standard for this area, but the cost of living in the bigger city of the small firm does not justify the $10k less money.

    -Weaker monetary benefits outside of pay (less PTO, smaller CPA pass bonus, etc.).

    -If I take the FT offer in my current city, even outside of tax season it’s gonna be more tax related than small firm.

    __________

    Overall, I like both firm’s culture and people. All offices I’ve visited have their own parking garage that’s free and underground. I can avoid most of the heavy traffic, etc. So basically it comes down to reputation, money, and location. Thoughts from the wiser bunch?

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  • #459921
    tough_kitty
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    Smaller firm sounds way more attractive!!! Hourly pay is rare + all the bonuses!!!!

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    #460018
    tough_kitty
    Member

    Smaller firm sounds way more attractive!!! Hourly pay is rare + all the bonuses!!!!

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    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
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    #459922
    JY
    Member

    It seems like working for the smaller firm will still get you better money with cost of living being considered. It also seems that the smaller firm is up to date with the best HR practices in the industry with their multitude of benefits..which means that they care about maintaining and attracting the best employees. I would probably go with the smaller firm with higher pay.

    Your salary will grow much higher with a higher starting pay. That 54k job will help you land a 60k job sooner.

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    #460020
    JY
    Member

    It seems like working for the smaller firm will still get you better money with cost of living being considered. It also seems that the smaller firm is up to date with the best HR practices in the industry with their multitude of benefits..which means that they care about maintaining and attracting the best employees. I would probably go with the smaller firm with higher pay.

    Your salary will grow much higher with a higher starting pay. That 54k job will help you land a 60k job sooner.

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    AUD: 90 11/30/13

    #459923
    lleon
    Member

    First and foremost, congrats all the multiple offers!! Having tough choices between offers is definitely a GREAT problem to have lol

    The small firm sounds great, especially with the pay/benefits that sound like they're pretty up to par with big firms. Sounds like you'd work more for less at a big firm and eventually leave after 3 years or so to go try acting. If your plan is to leave after 3 years, I feel like you might as well take the route that makes the most money in that time frame.

    Good luck!

    Licensed in Arizona

    #460022
    lleon
    Member

    First and foremost, congrats all the multiple offers!! Having tough choices between offers is definitely a GREAT problem to have lol

    The small firm sounds great, especially with the pay/benefits that sound like they're pretty up to par with big firms. Sounds like you'd work more for less at a big firm and eventually leave after 3 years or so to go try acting. If your plan is to leave after 3 years, I feel like you might as well take the route that makes the most money in that time frame.

    Good luck!

    Licensed in Arizona

    #459924
    texasman
    Member

    Took the small firm offer. Thank you everyone for the help and advice. This site is a great resource and I hope to contribute back in the near future once I get more knowledge.

    #460024
    texasman
    Member

    Took the small firm offer. Thank you everyone for the help and advice. This site is a great resource and I hope to contribute back in the near future once I get more knowledge.

    #459925
    tough_kitty
    Member

    Yay!!! 🙂 good luck!!!

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    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
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    #460026
    tough_kitty
    Member

    Yay!!! 🙂 good luck!!!

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    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
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    #459926
    MintsRGood
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    I'm late to the party on this thread, so congrats on multiple offers and I think you made a great choice with the small firm!

    I work at a small firm and I love it. The X factor is all the move/money/reputation decision is quality of life. I have 2 close friends who work at big 4 and we all go toe to toe on hours, salary, benefits, etc. but they are treated like farm animals on the job and I have great coworkers, nice clients, and an awesome boss! Everyone has bad work days, don't get me wrong, but there is a different attitude in small to mid-size firms about quality of life. The stories my big 4 pals share after tax season blow my mind. I'm always asking “why do you stay when it's that bad?” and they always reply “You can't turn down Big 4 on your resume, I'm doing it for my reputation!” meanwhile one friend has a stress developed eating disorder and the other has developed a stress related ulcer since working there. No joke. Physical and mental health>Reputation 😉

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    FAR: 72, 74, 79 DONE 🙂
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    #460028
    MintsRGood
    Participant

    I'm late to the party on this thread, so congrats on multiple offers and I think you made a great choice with the small firm!

    I work at a small firm and I love it. The X factor is all the move/money/reputation decision is quality of life. I have 2 close friends who work at big 4 and we all go toe to toe on hours, salary, benefits, etc. but they are treated like farm animals on the job and I have great coworkers, nice clients, and an awesome boss! Everyone has bad work days, don't get me wrong, but there is a different attitude in small to mid-size firms about quality of life. The stories my big 4 pals share after tax season blow my mind. I'm always asking “why do you stay when it's that bad?” and they always reply “You can't turn down Big 4 on your resume, I'm doing it for my reputation!” meanwhile one friend has a stress developed eating disorder and the other has developed a stress related ulcer since working there. No joke. Physical and mental health>Reputation 😉

    REG: 75 DONE 🙂
    AUD: 61, 71, 68, 92 DONE 🙂
    BEC: 76 DONE 🙂
    FAR: 72, 74, 79 DONE 🙂
    Licensed Michigan CPA 🙂
    -Some people dream of success...others wake up and work hard for it!!!
    -The cowards never start and the weak die along the way!
    -You better work, b***h!
    -Only those who dare to fail greatly can ever achieve greatly.-JFK

    #459927
    tough_kitty
    Member

    @MintsRGood: wow. Thanks for sharing. I'll never regret not getting a job with big 4 ever again! And I'd love to hear those stories! 🙂

    The sad part – other companies prefer/require big 4 experience because of the big 4 reputation alone…

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    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
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    #460030
    tough_kitty
    Member

    @MintsRGood: wow. Thanks for sharing. I'll never regret not getting a job with big 4 ever again! And I'd love to hear those stories! 🙂

    The sad part – other companies prefer/require big 4 experience because of the big 4 reputation alone…

    FAR: 81 (May 2013)
    BEC: 81 (July 2013)
    REG: 83 (August 2013)
    AUD: 82 (November 2013)
    California CPA since 1/30/14

    #459928
    Anonymous
    Inactive

    Take the small firm.

    The large firm will work you to death, and you won't get more. The small firm, if they work you to death, you're going to make nice money.

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