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October 22, 2013 at 4:04 am #181253
onmywhey
MemberHey All,
This is geared for you California people. I was just thinking…. why don’t prestigious schools like UC Berkeley and UCLA not have an accounting major?!
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October 22, 2013 at 4:18 am #460959
M.O.D.
MemberOr Stanford. Because it considered a mundane, pedestrian subject: like cooking, cleaning and gardening.
They do have economics majors though, which is compared to 200 year old medicine by the Wall Street Journal (leeches and all).
It has to do with the image of accounting clerks, not now, but 100-200 years ago when the universities were founded. Classical Greek and Latin and Philosophy were the thing to study back then, and only 1 in 100 went to College.
I also doubt the Ivy Leagues have accounting majors…
There are several professional preparation schools which specialize in it though: Golden Gate University. And the California State system has accounting.
BA Mathematics, UC Berkeley
Certificates in CPA and EA preparation, College of San Mateo
CMA I 420, II 470
FAR 91, AUD Feb 2015 (Gleim self-study)October 22, 2013 at 4:18 am #461063M.O.D.
MemberOr Stanford. Because it considered a mundane, pedestrian subject: like cooking, cleaning and gardening.
They do have economics majors though, which is compared to 200 year old medicine by the Wall Street Journal (leeches and all).
It has to do with the image of accounting clerks, not now, but 100-200 years ago when the universities were founded. Classical Greek and Latin and Philosophy were the thing to study back then, and only 1 in 100 went to College.
I also doubt the Ivy Leagues have accounting majors…
There are several professional preparation schools which specialize in it though: Golden Gate University. And the California State system has accounting.
BA Mathematics, UC Berkeley
Certificates in CPA and EA preparation, College of San Mateo
CMA I 420, II 470
FAR 91, AUD Feb 2015 (Gleim self-study)October 22, 2013 at 5:33 am #460961onmywhey
MemberInteresting, I can see why they think a subject like accounting is a vocational program. Interesting thing is I have heard more non-accounting focused majors applying for Big 4, which could indicate structural changes in the economy or lack of job in other areas. Wondering what this means for accounting
I do not see Wall Street becoming what it once was as banks divest themselves of the more risky business. It'll be fun to see how things play out.
October 22, 2013 at 5:33 am #461065onmywhey
MemberInteresting, I can see why they think a subject like accounting is a vocational program. Interesting thing is I have heard more non-accounting focused majors applying for Big 4, which could indicate structural changes in the economy or lack of job in other areas. Wondering what this means for accounting
I do not see Wall Street becoming what it once was as banks divest themselves of the more risky business. It'll be fun to see how things play out.
October 22, 2013 at 6:01 am #460963Anonymous
InactiveUCLA has a minor in accounting. I know plenty of UCLA students who went to public accounting.
October 22, 2013 at 6:01 am #461067Anonymous
InactiveUCLA has a minor in accounting. I know plenty of UCLA students who went to public accounting.
October 22, 2013 at 7:23 am #460965M.O.D.
MemberNo doubt people go into accounting. I went to UC Berkeley as a math major and am now studying business and accounting at Golden Gate University. I know an economics major doing the same thing.
Traditionally a classical liberal education came first, then the vocational preparation, if one had to work.
Interestingly, law and business were considered vocational programs too. Such schools were established later.
BA Mathematics, UC Berkeley
Certificates in CPA and EA preparation, College of San Mateo
CMA I 420, II 470
FAR 91, AUD Feb 2015 (Gleim self-study)October 22, 2013 at 7:23 am #461069M.O.D.
MemberNo doubt people go into accounting. I went to UC Berkeley as a math major and am now studying business and accounting at Golden Gate University. I know an economics major doing the same thing.
Traditionally a classical liberal education came first, then the vocational preparation, if one had to work.
Interestingly, law and business were considered vocational programs too. Such schools were established later.
BA Mathematics, UC Berkeley
Certificates in CPA and EA preparation, College of San Mateo
CMA I 420, II 470
FAR 91, AUD Feb 2015 (Gleim self-study)October 24, 2013 at 2:18 am #460967samdiegoCPA
MemberYep, all CSU schools have Accounting and also here in San Diego, USD, has it. I don't think UCSD does, though.
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FAR: 83October 24, 2013 at 2:18 am #461071samdiegoCPA
MemberYep, all CSU schools have Accounting and also here in San Diego, USD, has it. I don't think UCSD does, though.
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FAR: 83October 24, 2013 at 5:23 am #460969Study Monk
MemberI think tradition has something to do with it. I graduated UC Santa Cruz with an Economics major with an Accounting Emphasis. Traditionally UC's were more research focused and state schools were more technical in nature. That is my understanding.
@M.O.D I have been curious about Golden Gate University for a while. I have been desperately trying to find information about them that is not provided on their website. I have been thinking about Cal State East Bay or Cal State Sacramento's online taxation to save money, but if Golden Gate University graduates are heavily recruited or if it is more prestigious I might consider it. What made you decide on them?
I spoke to an ancient wise man who sent me on a mushroom induced journey through an ancient forest to find the key to passing the CPA exam. A talking spider monkey told me to throw the last of my drinking water in the dirt to find what I was looking for. So I followed his instructions and the following message appeared in the soil:
"Do 5000 multiple choice questions for each section"
October 24, 2013 at 5:23 am #461073Study Monk
MemberI think tradition has something to do with it. I graduated UC Santa Cruz with an Economics major with an Accounting Emphasis. Traditionally UC's were more research focused and state schools were more technical in nature. That is my understanding.
@M.O.D I have been curious about Golden Gate University for a while. I have been desperately trying to find information about them that is not provided on their website. I have been thinking about Cal State East Bay or Cal State Sacramento's online taxation to save money, but if Golden Gate University graduates are heavily recruited or if it is more prestigious I might consider it. What made you decide on them?
I spoke to an ancient wise man who sent me on a mushroom induced journey through an ancient forest to find the key to passing the CPA exam. A talking spider monkey told me to throw the last of my drinking water in the dirt to find what I was looking for. So I followed his instructions and the following message appeared in the soil:
"Do 5000 multiple choice questions for each section"
October 24, 2013 at 2:29 pm #460974M.O.D.
Member@monk
I like their focus (GGU). Business, accounting, taxation and law is all they teach (though I don't recommend their law school unless you just want to be a plain-vanilla lawyer). I took a graduate taxation course taught by a very experienced big 4 partner. I came to respect him. It was a rigorous course and he knew the subject thoroughly. Their professors have both academic and extensive work experience in their fields.
Its entire raison d'etre is to teach professional preparation in these fields. It actually started 100 years ago as an offshoot from night business classes offered at the San Francisco YMCA.
Check out their wikipedia article: “The university evolved out of the literary reading groups of the San Francisco Central YMCA at a time when, according to one contemporary estimate only one of every two thousand men had a college education.”
I also like their flexibility and YMCA-style outreach: open-enrollment. Anyone can take classes, at any time, without having to apply. CSUs all require GMATs. And that is one less thing I need to worry about when studying for the CPA test.
Contact an enrollement counselor. I have been talking with
Maggie Coats
Enrollment Counselor
Golden Gate University
Office: (415) 568-3486
BA Mathematics, UC Berkeley
Certificates in CPA and EA preparation, College of San Mateo
CMA I 420, II 470
FAR 91, AUD Feb 2015 (Gleim self-study)October 24, 2013 at 2:29 pm #461077M.O.D.
Member@monk
I like their focus (GGU). Business, accounting, taxation and law is all they teach (though I don't recommend their law school unless you just want to be a plain-vanilla lawyer). I took a graduate taxation course taught by a very experienced big 4 partner. I came to respect him. It was a rigorous course and he knew the subject thoroughly. Their professors have both academic and extensive work experience in their fields.
Its entire raison d'etre is to teach professional preparation in these fields. It actually started 100 years ago as an offshoot from night business classes offered at the San Francisco YMCA.
Check out their wikipedia article: “The university evolved out of the literary reading groups of the San Francisco Central YMCA at a time when, according to one contemporary estimate only one of every two thousand men had a college education.”
I also like their flexibility and YMCA-style outreach: open-enrollment. Anyone can take classes, at any time, without having to apply. CSUs all require GMATs. And that is one less thing I need to worry about when studying for the CPA test.
Contact an enrollement counselor. I have been talking with
Maggie Coats
Enrollment Counselor
Golden Gate University
Office: (415) 568-3486
BA Mathematics, UC Berkeley
Certificates in CPA and EA preparation, College of San Mateo
CMA I 420, II 470
FAR 91, AUD Feb 2015 (Gleim self-study)October 24, 2013 at 3:43 pm #460976Study Monk
MemberThanks M.O.D!
I am still on the fence about the masters since I only need 6 more units of accounting to qualify for the CA 2014 changes to the educational requirements. As of now, I am thinking about starting to take classes somewhere where I can have access to a good recruiting fair. Do you know if GGU has a good recruiting fair for public accounting firms?
Some of the Cal States now accept people into their masters of taxation/accounting programs with passage of the CPA exams (license is not required), which is my goal. I think I will end up going to a cal state east bay unless GGU has some amazing reputation that surpasses cal state east bay(for financial reasons).
I might need to create a new thread for this some time, but i wonder what the go to taxation school is for Bay Area(North Bay) accounting firms. I went to Cal State San Jose job fair five years ago and it was quite large, but I am in Marin now so commuting there is not going to happen. Anyway thanks M.O.D
I spoke to an ancient wise man who sent me on a mushroom induced journey through an ancient forest to find the key to passing the CPA exam. A talking spider monkey told me to throw the last of my drinking water in the dirt to find what I was looking for. So I followed his instructions and the following message appeared in the soil:
"Do 5000 multiple choice questions for each section"
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