diversity in the work place - Page 3

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  • #172787
    Anonymous
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    i am starting to feel that diversity is not appreciated in the world of accounting, aside from the big 4, i don’t think smaller firms even care. from what i’ve seen, probably 95% of firms i’ve interviewed with (probably about 20 different firms large and small) all promote a homogenous culture. every firm i see the same kind of half dead, robotic, soulless eyes and fragile, unathletic, unhealthy groups of accountants and i wonder what the hell. accounting is not an industry to be proud working in.

    they hire people who they think they can manipulate into working longer hours and performing more work for less pay. they hire people who aren’t necessarily the best, but people they think they can use up and spit out if they feel like it. people who are friends of the current employees to promote yet an even further office of second-hand individuals who think they are special in life just because they can come to work and perform the work of a highly trained monkey.

    accountants are not much but tools, implemented to carry out mechanical, lower-level tasks, and may receive a promotion in the future if they are well behaved. i am close to my boiling point, luckily i still plan on finishing this exam and more actively pursue my dreams of entrepreneurship which is already underway. this is exactly why the accounting industry flies under the radar and is not in the public spotlight, because they have unorthodox hiring practices and are unethical in nature.

    sorry but as an active cpa candidate who has a substantial amount of relevant experience as well as operative business experience and a number of other accomplishments socially, academically, and professionally, i have seen much behind the scenes of a lot of firms to put the pieces together myself and expose what i’ve described here. i am not arrogant nor am i stressed out, accounting is and always will be a field for second hand individuals who are extremely sheltered and never could make much out of life except reading books and pursuing a career that would earn a higher average salary than others and in turn give the false impression that they are elite and a better human being.

    of course there are a few exceptions to the norm, but very few. no need to counter my arguments here, more than likely if you feel the need, you probably have been offended that you fall into this category which has already been thoroughly verified by my own firsthand scientific reasoning and observations.

    /end truth

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  • #357782
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    lol you guys wonder why no one cares about accountants but other accountants, its because most of you are either so naive or just blinded enough to think you are that important. most people don't care whether you pass the cpa exam or not, probably not because THEY are naive, but because you are so cut off from reality as an accountant that they just don't care.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGJuMBdaqIw

    #357783
    Anonymous
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    yea i'm white and i suppose that would make a difference

    #357784
    Anonymous
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    lol, I guess you were referring to diversity of thinking? I'm not sure you should post such stuff as it can seem scary as in have you bought some weapons and live in Colorado scary – just in my humble opinion.

    #357785
    mla1169
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    I have to wonder who is the one naive enough to think they're important when you actually believe you matter enough in your locale to be blacklisted? Thou dost protest too much, methinks.

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    #357786
    MeaDebitum
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    Oh man, this is great. Totally made my day.

    10/10 Would read again!

    #357787
    Anonymous
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    @cpa565

    far from it, and that is a whole other issue entirely. why are accountants seemingly always so nonchalant? like they don't know what the word anger or frustration means. i completely understand stress-management but get real, i don't think i could ever be that dead inside.

    @mla1169

    its not so far-fetched when you see just who is connected to eachother on LinkedIn, most recruiters at different firms know other recruiters or at least other managers/staff at other firms

    #357788
    Anonymous
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    dumguy_cpa what state are you in? It sounds like we are in the same place at the same time..

    #357789
    Mrs 300
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    It's seriously posts like these that make me want to just leave A71 completely. The last few weeks, especially after reading some of the BS on here, I am not surprised at all as to why our economy sucks.

    OP, how long have you even been working in accounting? I worked for PwC for 5 years. Before I accepted my offer, I interviewed with 11 firms. I did my homework. I visited the staff. I asked a LOT of questions. You can tell after an interview and an office visit whether you will fit in. During that 5 years, it changed a lot. There were a lot of people I didn't get along with or didn't like, but I dealt with it. If you think that you're going to work for 40 years, get along with everyone, and fit in everywhere, you are mistaken.

    I'm beginning to think that at age 31, I am too old for this forum. I just don't seem to be on the same page as a lot of people who are graduating or currently seeking employment. Posts like these also make me miss Mini & Baseball.

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    #357790
    mla1169
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    Oh man mrs 300 you just made me feel elderly lol! At 42 I worry for our future when kids like this decide they made the wrong career choice for themselves and feel the need to call names people who don't have the same regrets.

    I miss mini and baseball too….

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    #357791
    Anonymous
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    @Mrs 300

    the point is that i did deal with it, by not associating with those other individuals who at any other “professional” environment would not have been tolerated. apparently its ok to chew gum at your highest engagement fee client and take 5 hours to research a single question when you could have just asked the manager that you needed help who was sitting right next to you. yet instead the guy who was completing his work, asking the right questions, and taking initiative to learn more difficult tasks including planning and riskier areas of fieldwork that seniors typically perform, i was the one who because i didn't joke around like the others was let go and as i mentioned before even passed a portion of the CPA exam which none of the other new hires even began.

    sorry you're so upset mrs 300, but you clearly missed the point. it is a top 10 firm yet it seemed more like a handout organization…i don't remember anywhere in my education or professional training that its ok to hire a girl who barely speaks english and doesn't even know how to use excel, but is very cute. neither did i learn that working for international organizations its ok to be arrogant and disturbing to others while sitting in a small conference room during an audit. and unfortunately i was the one who brought things of this nature to the attention of the HR Manager and in return i was let go. the list continues and as i mentioned before, it was embarrassing to be a part of that office.

    interpret everything you've read here as you'd like, people want to see me as the bad guy because they haven't experienced it or don't want to know of the truth. be perfectly content on your high horse, i was there once, until i actually stood up for a cause and was given the corporate finger because of it. i'm wiling to bet you'd let your manager continue to make flirty passes at you while at work if your job depended on it.

    bunch of tools i tell ya, coming from someone who has been at Big 4 for 5 years and yet to fully pass the exam. no disrespect, but you very well may become one of those bitter older people discrediting the younger folk who are challenging you for a position. i don't think you have the credibility to tell me that its people like ME as to why the economy sucks. get real, the economy sucks because people have gotten so soft. they'd rather create a “happy” workplace where people get along in order to keep their jobs rather than a more friendly competitive environment and higher performing.

    accountants in nature are very conservative so i don't blame your narrow perspective on other people's beliefs.

    #357792
    Mrs 300
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    Sorry mla! I'm almost 32. And I'm an old soul. So I might as well be 42. 🙂

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    #357793
    mla1169
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    Dumguy, who has the narrow beliefs? Take a personal inventory….

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    #357794
    Anonymous
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    meowww

    #357795
    jenuno01
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    Are we being Punk'd??!

    Class of 2012

    #357796
    Mrs 300
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    I'm not sure how to even begin responding to your post. This will be a bit scattered.

    1) First of all, I am more embarrassed than anyone that I haven't passed the exam yet. But, I think I'm more of a positive influence on the younger people in my current firm and at PwC because I frequently use(d) myself as an example of why you SHOULD try and pass early on in your career instead of waiting to get serious, as I did. I did as they asked and became an EA because I had a lot of trouble finding time to study and pass the exam when my kids were younger. I was able to represent my clients and speak on their behalf.

    2) Am I really acting as though I'm on a high horse? You just seem to whine a lot. I wasn't upset and I'm not upset. Annoyed, absolutely.

    3) “i'm wiling to bet you'd let your manager continue to make flirty passes at you while at work if your job depended on it.” Was this directed towards me? I'm just having such a hard time deciding if it was. Your post lacks credibility on so many levels if this was directed towards me.

    4) At 31, I am a bitter old person. That is just hilarious. Can you really be construed as a “bitter old person” before 60? Too funny. That made me laugh my a$$ off.

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