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March 24, 2015 at 3:52 am #192891
coolerdude44ParticipantSo long story short, I applied and got an offer for the office in a particular city because my girlfriend got a job there first. Now, we just broke up the other day, and I would now prefer working in the New York office due to familial ties and it being where I grew up.
Would it be a good idea to ask if it’s possible to change the office I’ll be working at? Or would it be better to start off at the original office, and eventually transfer?
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March 24, 2015 at 10:02 am #686191
quittingcpa2013Memberdude just ask
March 24, 2015 at 1:23 pm #686192
justgivemea75MemberI'm in a similar process of trying to change offices. In my situation, I have very personal reasons why I need to move closer to home, and I was confident that my partner/HR person would sign off on getting me switched out. Now, depending on your reasoning, I've heard mixed advice. Take what I say below with somewhat of a grain of salt, since I'm still in this process and my situation probably differs from yours.
The dilemma is that it's a bit of a catch-22 in that you're kind of putting yourself out there and will probably shoot yourself in the foot either way if it fails. If you reach out the the other office's HR first, your home office will not be a big fan of you and it could be seen as slightly underhanded. These are basically separate businesses operating under the same umbrella and partners don't like to see people they've trained leave. That said, if you tell your office's HR that you want to leave, you might get slightly screwed in that now the office knows you aren't going to be here and has no incentive to give you the opportunities you want till the time you transfer.
When I was deciding what to do, I decided to just go to HR at my office because, if HR/the partner wouldn't support me for my very real reason for leaving, then frankly, this firm doesn't care enough about me and I won't stay long anyway. Second, if I talk to them first, I figured the partner would be much more sympathetic toward signing off on the transfer than if I went to the other office and undercut them. However, I can also see how it's beneficial to have another office already clamoring for you, so if you think you can pull that off, go for it.
Just for general info, the basic process (if you go to your HR first) is that HR will talk to your office's head partner and explain the situation. If the partner signs off on it, then your HR person will connect you to the other office and begin discussions assessing the need of the other office, your fit, etc. After that, I'm not sure as I'm still finding out what's going on, but hopefully this helps a bit.
My best advice is really think about how legitimate your reason is for leaving and if your current situation is bad enough to make you want to leave the firm if necessary. My guess is that internal transfers are WAY easier than getting hired externally, but it is risky, IMO, because the firm will know you aren't sticking around and therefore be less likely to accommodate you while you're here.
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March 24, 2015 at 3:17 pm #686193
AnonymousInactiveIt doesn't hurt to ask, but I wouldn't give the reason of “my girlfriend and I just broke up.” Don't give a reason unless they ask, in which case say you want to be closer to family or something.
March 24, 2015 at 3:25 pm #686194
coolerdude44Participantlet me also make it known that I am still a senior in college, i haven't actually started yet at any office. does that make it better or worse to ask?
March 24, 2015 at 3:28 pm #686195
quittingcpa2013Memberdude just ask
March 25, 2015 at 2:39 am #686196
futurecpa1991Memberim with quittingcpa.. I know plenty of people who have switched. They would rather lose you to a different office than a new firm.
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BEC - 82 (May 15)July 30, 2015 at 7:07 pm #686197
GOIN4UCPAMemberCoolerdude44 I am in the same situation as you and have been trying to get relocated before I start this fall because my fiancé got a job in another city and I am trying to transfer out of NY office. Can you please let me know how your transfer went and if you could give me some advice? Thank you!
July 31, 2015 at 3:40 am #686198
LoriInCOMemberIt doesn't hurt to ask. I interned at PwC with a woman who accepted an offer in Denver. Before we started as first years, she decided she wanted to move to California, so she asked if she could start out there instead. Her boyfriend was already working out there, and she wanted to live someplace other than Denver for a change. I don't know exactly what she told PwC, but they worked with her and were great about it.
While we were at training at the start of the internship, one of the interns from the Salt Lake office had already been talking with the firm about possibly moving to a different office. His wife was applying to grad schools across the country, and he wanted to make sure he was living in the same city where she ended up getting accepted. It sounded like the firm was open to making it work for him.
July 31, 2015 at 4:47 am #686199
Last Chance CPAParticipantThey would rather keep a good employee in there firm, even if you move to another office. Dude, just ask – lol. But yeah, just ask. Make it official. They will work with you…
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August 3, 2015 at 6:29 pm #686200
GOIN4UCPAMemberI reached out to the HR in home office and they said the HR in the other office really couldn't take me because they just finished recruiting. Also, the HR in home office advised me to wait for a while to bring up the transfer request to the new HR I will be working with once start. So it sounds like I will have to wait at least half a year to get transferred. I guess I will have to either turn down the offer or take my chance and start in NY office to see what happens.
August 3, 2015 at 6:37 pm #686201
ruggercpa2bParticipantIts so much easier to transfer once you actually start depending on the practice you are with. If I were you I would keep the offer but keep applying other places. There are people that accept offers and end up not starting when the time comes.
AUD - 73, 72 retake 7/2/2016
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FAR - TBDI am so ready for this nightmare to be over. Been at this way too long.
August 3, 2015 at 6:44 pm #686202
GOIN4UCPAMemberI am in Assurance practice and I hope it is easier to transfer after start but I have heard otherwise. I don't really know how transfer works within PwC or big 4. Most of my friends at big 4 were surprised they couldn't transfer me before Fall because my reason is legit and the other office is a big office. Yeah I recently connected with other big4 and GT. To be honest, I just always wanted to start my career at PwC and it will be really unfortunate I have to turn down the offer.
August 3, 2015 at 7:11 pm #686203
ruggercpa2bParticipantYou have to remember everything is based on numbers. The NY office may be big but if this year's budget says they can only bring on 100 new hires and at this moment if they have 100 people confirmed to start then that is what they can have. There is just so much more that goes into hiring vs just the size of the office. When I worked at Deloitte they would always say we were short handed but because the powers that be felt that the headcount should be at 200 even though we needed 300 it had to stay at 200.
I honestly would start and then switch. At Deloitte I wanted to switch offices and HR had to make a business case as to why they were bringing me on and had to get approved. It took almost 4 months for the whole process to get approved.
Ask HR if there are any people that decide not to start when the time comes if you would be able to transfer. I mean at the end of the day you have to do whats best for you. If not starting because you decided to change your mind and they cant accommodate you then so be it. But do not make a hasty decision.
AUD - 73, 72 retake 7/2/2016
BEC - 8/20/2016
REG - TBD
FAR - TBDI am so ready for this nightmare to be over. Been at this way too long.
August 3, 2015 at 10:58 pm #686205
AnonymousInactiveI work for PwC and just transferred. It wasn't an issue. I also interned with many people at PwC who decided to switch groups or start in a different PwC office. I reached out to my coach/HR manager who then coordinated with the HR manager in the office I wanted to transfer to.
August 8, 2015 at 12:39 am #686206
GOIN4UCPAMember@ruggercpa2b @Accrual1102 Thank you so much for the advice! I really appreciate it.
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